Brian from KC and Joe from MKE have played on Sillgey Piccolo 20"ers, this isn't anything special. But it does look pretty flimsy. I wouldn't want to take that frame into the boards at high speeds. My bruiser, on the other hand, I have ghost ridden into traffic and off of buildings without any damage to the frame.
Strange polo bike design
.edit 2. took the webpage down because they are wrong in so many ways apparently brandon doesn't even want them to get any hits so that's how we roll in denver, internet denial of direct service attacks. or word of mouth. or something.
I'd either suggest more links to strange polo bikes (penny farthings?) or more of the piccolo especially in action or just those weird grass polo bikes.
That bottom bracket looks loooow.
I want to punch this website.
I clicked on "History of Fixies" (just to the left of "Bike Messanger History") and the first sentence was "Fixed gear bicycles have become the ultimate item in urban chique."
This company has all the credibility of Nigerian e-mail scammers.
That aside, that bike could sure use some canti posts. Yup.
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Shit's a total gimmick. 46 tooth fron chainring? Even with 20 inch wheels, that's ridiculous. Looks like something some kid with a trust fund would buy to look cool to his polo "friends". This is something to worry about. It seems people are already starting to exploit this sport.
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Shit's a total gimmick. 46 tooth fron chainring? Even with 20 inch wheels, that's ridiculous.
about the equivalent of 2:1 for 700c. not ideal, but i wouldn't call it ridiculous.
Looks like something some kid with a trust fund would buy to look cool to his polo "friends".
pretty sure the trust fund babies would go for the polo-specific waterford frame that everyone is drooling over. not to sell the joust short or anything.
x3. The guy who designed this webpage apparently 'borrowed' a picture of us denver kids taken by our club rep and used it on the bike polo bike section without even asking?? Adam(the rep) has been nice with them trying to get them to cough up a frame for us to play on (thus the thread, I wanted to see what people thought).
But yes, the entire History of Fixies, the Bike "Messanger" History, and the "Bicyle" polo section are filled with the same selling-to-hipster jibe that Apple, Urban Outfitters and Republic bikes have mastered so well.
There is nothing about history in the history sections and the "Bicyle" polo section gives a link to the official Grass Polo web page and not this one.
Trust me drew, if we find the designer of the web page we'll make sure your anger is felt!
Tell your rep (adam) to spend the money on beer for your clubs 1st anniversary, this looks like a waste of hard earned $$ although it'd be interesting to take bets on how long it would take for that (too long & unreinforced) head tube to tear off.
your a fucking tool. (and i never cuss on this site)
Thats not very nice. Do you you know this man you are calling a tool?
Its not as if he is the website offering complete custom fixed gear bikes for $365.
OK I'll reserve my opinons in the future...but this is a disscussion forum not one for personal attacks. I guess I took from the original post that you were off to buy one for the club, not extract one as a demo to trial. Sorry it came to cussing, but Sveden is correct (above), you don't know me and shouldn't base your opinon of me on one forum post.
Sven being correct?!?
At least he used the qualifier "above".
i love hurting feelings. i actually learned that move from danielNOLA
Feelings not hurt, just surprised that you jumped into the discussion with that! Let us know what happens if you get a demo bike, then perhaps we can get an informed opinion on this bike rather than a guess...somehow this post has wandered off into Radball which has been happening with surprising regularity at LOBP lately.
will do, and feel free to be a dick to people on the internet, its not like your ever gonnna meet them anyways....wait your not going to midwests are you?! whew ( i suck at relaying my sarcasm via internet)
don't misunderstand adam....he's normally real chill........
but because of the misunderstanding that someone was gonna pay for it (we wanted a "free sample") he's cussing on bike polo! nobody was gonna pay anything for it...
and we play on school property so drinking on there is a big no no.
i had mine lined up to get canti posts and cable guides welded on, but backed out and decided to go a different route.
the wheel size and lack of brake mounts were the deciding factors to retire my piccolo as my polo bike. i will say that its nimble, and far from flimsy. plus, a 20" wheel can be built up to be pretty damn strong.
thats just an old bicycle polo frame....
Neh laddy, this be an old bicycle polo frame:
well yes. that is also. i've seen the other design, i think it's canadian, used for gras polo int he past.
that bike looks so tight. why don't they make sick polo machines like that anymore? kinda reminds me of that trixter gorilla frame. are those 26" wheels?
that bike looks so tight. why don't they make sick polo machines like that anymore? kinda reminds me of that trixter gorilla frame. are those 26" wheels?
Unfortunately I can't say- I didn't take the photo. Pic was shot by someone in my grass crew when they went to the Dublin grass tourney. The bike dates from the 1930s? "Phoenix" is the name of the park where they first played in Dublin.
And yea. That design is the shizz. Reminds me of a karate monkey and some other track bike I can't remember the name of..
I spoke with Rick Hunter of Hunter bikes about making a polo frame similar to the one above which is similar to his swamper (which is a 29er) except in 26". He was into it but I can't see spending $1k+ for a custom polo frame and zero rake fork. Not until I win the lottery at least. Here's a shot of the hunter "Swamper Deluxe"
So imagine that in 26" wheel size, non suspension adjusted (72 HA?), straight top tube or maybe curved the other way? Maybe some stout 853 tubing? Also dig those curve-tastic swinging dropouts! Droolz.
We should see if he'll make one for the NA's!
my piccolo made a great bike for playing polo on, but there were several other factors that made it not such a good polo bike in general. check out my review of the Silgey Picollo in issue #7 of Cog Magazine for my low down this style frame for polo... i'm guessing this bike is just a re-branded picollo anyways.
if you want to invest in a new polo bike, get the MKE Bike Co. Bruiser.
x2. the bruisers are hella good. would you be able to copy and paste your review of that picollo here for reference? I can already gauge off the pictures of this bike that A) it needs a smaller chainring, B) probably pedal strikes like WHOAH and C) the headtube would probably get destroyed in a good collision with anything....
what kind of metal was that picollo anyways? this comes in 4130 cromoly...
i can't find a link to the article... you may just have to get a copy of the mag from your lbs. i didn't have a problem with pedal strike cuz i used 160mm cranks. also, i found the short tubes made for a pretty stiff/ strong bike. also, there is a thick-ass steer tube running through that head tube... it looks funny but i think overall it is probably stronger than your average entry level track frame made with similar tubing and construction methods. i never feared the frame would fail on me.
oh, AND, the gear ratio will not give you the the same gain ratio as on a bike with 700c wheels... the smaller wheels requires a larger chainring than normal (i put a 52x15 on it to achieve normal feeling street ratio)
mine is currently set up with ape hangers, a big front basket, and a 42x16 freewheel... it's the only bike i ride when i'm not messengering or playing polo.
picollo = 4130
it's like a F1 BMX. taka from eindhoven plays on one
http://74.125.77.132/search?q=cache:eZ4XMeip7EMJ:ehvfxd.khanh.nl/site/fo...
do these type of frames also get used for radball?
I wouldn't think so.
Those radball bikes are made sport specific and anyone using anything else would just get their asses handed to them.
On that note...I have seen video of some Japanese polo players on radball bikes.
whats keo spin?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvRLGzcDj8k
FIXIE TRICKS I LOVE THEM SO COOL! (p.s. notice the polo in the background, haha.)
So why did you take the link to Big Shot Bikes out of your original post? Whats the story?
edit:fine I would never buy a custom fixed gear bike from Big Shot Bikes anyway.
So the dude who owns that company has a shity index score on google, we dont want to promote him on here because if he gets a link from a website that has bikepolo on it, it can only serve to promote his company more on the Internets.
thus maybe we should delete the whole thread and start a newer one more focused on all frames and not some crappy page and company that never deserved the exposure.
+1 on the frames thread..
I'm for starting another thread, but we should e-mail this thread to this 'polo bike' company.
or bike snob nyc. :p although I'm sure he's already gone on a tirade about companies robbing trendsters.
Just to be clear, you want to send this rant about a bike polo club not get a free sample of a bike that they didn't think they'd like to the company that makes that bike? What's the point? Is it that polo players are quick to judge, disrespectful, and don't want to see small bike companies take interest in our sport?
I may not know anything about that bike but I'm happy that another company has taken interest in polo. Do what you want but IMO this is not the best of LOBP and rather see it fade into meaningless chit-chat.
Taken interest or chosen to exploit?
Why do you think they're exploiting?
Read the website. It's a bunch of bullshit. In addition to the flashy, gimmicky bikes that look reeaalllllll cool, their whole history section is assinign. The polo section, for instance, sites what I'm pretty sure are grass polo rules and tries to sound authoritative on hardcourt play (the majority of polo bikes are fixed? I thought the majority of polo bikes were whatever the individual players wanted them to be). In addition, anything that describes a fixed gear as "the ultimate in urban chique" is clearly trying to hook people on aesthetics and vanity, not actual quality or utility. The site is pandering to a shallow audience and is profit driven only. I'm fairly certain this all falls into the exploitation category.
That's more likely the work of a crappy marketing firm. When you see some really slick marketing campaigns that just make you drool with excitement for polo that come from Trek, Specialized or Nike that will much more likely be exploitation.
Right, but I have yet to see said slick marketing campaigns, and if I do, I'd really hope the poloverse would be savy enough to see through them and keeping using whatever bikes suited them. This seems to be the first step toward further exploitation. Plus, do any of the bikes marketed on the site really look like quality gear? I mean, the so-called polo bike doesn't look like it would survive any of the rougher games I've seen. If their gear was quality, they wouldn't need the shitty marketing.
How you would you feel if you logged on to a website and saw your picture being used to promote a product that you had never seen.
Secondly, we told him for compensation of using our photo that he could give us a bike. This seems fair to me. if you have ever bought any stock photos/video for in perpetuity, you know that one photo can cost you literary $1000's.
When he responded to our request he told us he could not "give" us a bike but insted give us some t-shrits. We told him, sure, but bring your bike so we could consider giving it our seal of approval, we have not herd form him since and he has removed our photo.
Thridly, i checked into this LLC, and he lives .4 miles away form were we played polo for 9 months. He never once came and played polo with us. I know its not my "business" but i feel if i was going to plunk down a few G's to start a "Cycling" company , i would do my research.
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My final point for fucking peat sake if your going to buy a "polo" bike buy an American made Joust or BRUISER. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the people who make these bike might just know a thing or two about Hardcourt bike polo
for fucking peat sake
Pete's sake...
Yes i want $$$ for my photos. I had to wade in a barrel of pbr for 3 weeks to get this rare shot of these city kids playing bike polo, the Poloniveris Hardourtphylaxis specimen. These shots arent easy and don't come FREE!!
See the Piccolo as well.
That header image on the big shot site advertising "fixies" for $365 complete kinda makes me want to barf however.
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