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I'm surprised i can't really find any dedicated disc brake specific talk. This style of brake setup is definitely in the minority...so what have you got to say about it? who's using? mechanical (probably) ...hydro?
potential debatable topics...

pros?
better braking power (less sore lever hand after long seshes)
better braking in the rain
no issue about wheel being out of true

cons?
higher cost
discs will go out of true easier with a good mallet whack
potential safety hazzard

weighing these factors (and probably more i haven't thought of) is it worth it?

i think the con of them being a safety hazard outweighs any pro they might have. not worth it, coming from someone who had to get their finger sewed back on after encountering a rotor.

Cutting and mounting an old rotor works really well for protecting both the rotor and other players.

As for functionality, I use an avid BB5 mechanical and it stops me, but I have to adjust it almost constantly as I play over a weekend. It's frustrating but when it's perfect I love it.

I think that polo wise, if you can afford it and know how to keep the brakes working effectively, they are a decent choice, expecially here in portland, and Seattle where there are lots of wet polo days. As for a wheels in true it is nice condiering the only work UI have gotten on my back wheel since installing teh disc brakes was when I lost two spokes to an opponents pedal.
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Go mechanical, and get a bb7, or if you know a bit about bike mechanicry, and have available parts do what I did. Take the features and adjust ability that make the bb7 so rad and use an old crappy hayes that will put up with tons of abuse, and combine them into a better working more durable disc brake unit. Disc brakes are great, I really like hydraulic ones and had them on my bike for a while, but alas they got destroyed when a hose got kinked and punctured. I look at it this way, if I use mechanical disc brakes and something crazy happens and they get fubared during a tourney I just pull off my front V brakes and put em on back, using some of the hardware from the rear mechanical disc brake. HA!
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I really like disc brakes, and Avid at least makes a 140mm rotor for the rear, which would cut down on the chances of having your rotor hit. I don't think I ever played polo on a bike of my own that DIDN'T have disc brakes, and I only had to bend my rotor back once. Granted, Ben Schultz has a bent hub flange, and if THOSE are getting bent, a rotor is not likely to do so well, but I would still chance it. I might try to get my hands on a 140 soon and test it, as my rear wheel skids a bit to easily anyway.

Anybody got a 140 they want to trade? I have LOTS of other rotors, especially 160s.

Oh, and I've never snapped a hydraulic line, but I HAVE fucked up levers a couple times, and THAT can get expensive.

I would think that mech would be better than hydro because
-ease of installation
-ease of maintenance
-efficiency of cost

i think a bb5 would be plenty of stopping power and adjustability for polo. lower cost than bb7s.

i think that the "con" of them being a potential hazard to other players is pretty close to null. if your hand is going towards a rotor, it is going towards spokes too. i believe there are also people who have guards on their bike to protect the brake and rotor. makes sense, and seems like you could probably fabricate something for a relatively low cost.

sam, are you the wrench at rapid transit?

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yep, that's me! The bb5 uses a pad with a lot less surface area than the bb7, which is not a big deal with a large rotor, but might be less than ideal with a 140. I have yet to see any pictures of these brake guards, but that's a good idea as well.

i didnt take the pad + smaller rotor into consideration. good point.

jarrett from ny/boston has a (custom) fastboy cycles polo bike that ezra made a great looking rotor guard on.

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I have been rocking a rear bb7 since last june, and I love it. Granted, it locks up the rear wheel, and I have gone through several tires bc of this, but my LBS sells used tires for $5, and I am getting better at pulsing/modulating to prevent this. I would like to figure out an "anti-lock pulsing system" for it, but, well, fuck it - too busy getting jiggy.

Used hydro to start, but didnt want to spill hydro oil all over the court... major dick move, BTW. I am missing my left index finger, so the increased power is very welcome to fight hand fatigue.

Protecting the rotor? Easy:
1 - go to dollar/savers/thrift store
2 - buy +/- 8" pot lid and remove handle, drill a hole in the center of the lid the size of your axle
3 - install on axle, disk brake side, duh. Could add another on derailer side.
4 - buy a stack of tires

Expect people to start swinging at your brake cover, especially your asshole teammates...

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looks pretty light compared to what I was picturing/ what Jarrett has.

agree, pretty awesomely simple.

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I have really gotten used to the locked rear wheel float skidding... it works really well for crashing boards, blocking, and all around looking fucking cool and badazzzzzzz
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my big problem with the rear disc brake is that skidding isn't stopping, and the wheel just floats, as you were just saying. I was trying to figure out how to get effective braking without doing that, which is why I was thinking of the smaller rotor, what are your thoughts?

Were you at COMO? one of the three generation, grass polo native guys from texas(??) had front and back disks with a single lever... I am thinking about doing that... getting a "problem solver" splitter to give a little front braking power... but I dont really want to stop dead anyway... I like the floating skid, I just end up either running into things, or try to be pre-emptive, but in general, keep moving.

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I haven't been to a tournament in a LONG time. I had thought about the cable doubler/ hydro splitter type things, that would probably be the best way to go. I put two magura hydraulic rim brakes on my neighbor's bike both running off one lever because he basically only has the use of one hand, and that worked well for about 3 years of HEAVY use, but I don't know how I feel about that for polo, as there was not a good way to adjust which brake hit first.

I'm not looking for a dead stop, but control. My experience up to now has been that I'm not in control at the level I want to be with just a rear brake.

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one of the three generation, grass polo native guys from texas(??) .

They're from Arizona. Those guys have their bikes dialed.

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The thing about hydros that makes me nervous is the bars spinning during a crash. I've blasted through enough housing end caps to know there's a lot of force being yanked at the lever.

it's true. a little extra hose can make the difference. Dirt Jump bikes have EXTRA long hoses for that reason, and while I don't want THAT much extra, a little doesn't hurt.

yea that makes sense, no need to worry too much about mushy feeling with excess tubing. Too much cable/housing on the other hand makes for some muddy feeling brakes.

Side note, aren't disc wheels non-symmetric? I'd think they'd be more prone to taco fiesta than a symmetrically dished wheel.

singlespeed disc wheels are generally non-dished, as the rotor and the drive mechanism take up about the same amount of space.

Front disk wheels are dished a little, but less than a rear road wheel for example.

Does all this posting mean you might be playing again soon?

You'll see. Unless you drilled out your eyes because they were too heavy.

most likely.

140mm rotor works great for me, and my current break has slim pads, I feel they allow for more modulation and less skid if I want to feather it a bit.

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excellent!

awesome. i'm gonna try out the 140s too on my new build.

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Roma Bike Polo loves Avid BB5!

One of us have put the bb5 in a old rigid MTB from 90s.

See the gallery at: RomaBikePolo.org/la-bici-di-marco

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nice bash guard!

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Sweet frame mod! Only critique: you *could* have welded an old rotor on also as a rotor protector...

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Could you post some example of rotor protection? I've seen only the pot lid (wonderful!) posted above.

and sorry...what kind of protection, specifically, I have to get? Some people says about fingers sewed back...really? How does a finger to get in contact with a spinning rotor?

Thank you in advance!

Leon's rotor guard

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This photo was taken in June at the Cog Polo invite.

That is Leon's. Probably the best solution that doesn't require framebuilding knowledge.

I would have plastic dipped the old rotor, just to be extra safe.

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Inspired by Leon's set-up I've got a project in the works for a home made bash guard.

Cut from 3mm aluminium sheet. All fixings will be removable as I don't have the necessary equipment to do any welding.

I'll throw up a few photos in the coming weeks when I've got a working design.

>I would have plastic dipped the old rotor, just to be extra safe.
I took a few extra photos of this in Seattle last June (still on my laptop sorry) and I don't think it's an old rotor, but of course leon could elaborate better than I could speculate.

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this is a sweet rotor guard that a player in my club recently made me aware of...
http://bikehugger.com/2009/07/custom-built-bash-guard.html

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Here's my new disc guard setup. An old spoke guard/dork disc mounted with a screw and a zap strap. still have to grind down those sharp corners a bit more. otherwise it is solid, cheap and easy.

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updated disc guard. even more skookum and safer! lined the edges with a bit of small diameter plastic hose, then put it all together with hockey tape.

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i have been using a tektro aquila in the back for about 6 months and never had any issues. i also had two guards welded on, one for the disc and one for the caliper. i will try to get some pictures soon.

I've thought about this recently, and for the me the only big pro with disc brakes would be not burning through rims. The fact that I ride Rhyno Lites makes it seem to me to not be enough for me to get a new frame and put the money in for that particular braking system, when well adjusted V-brakes work well and the rims I use are cheap.

*edit- I understand if you live somewhere super rainy, however. Rebuilding your wheel every few months would suck.

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a few of us here in nanaimo have worn through a set of brake pads in one or two sessions of polo in the rain. and it does rain here quite a bit. not to mention, when it does rain and you are using v-brakes braking power is reduced considerably. thats not so good from a safety perspective.

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I had the mount welded on to my old step-thru 80s frame.

i was thinking about getting a steel frame and having a tab welded on. my current polo steed is aluminum. i was quoted $100 per tab for parts and labour by a local frame builder. instead i found a soma 4one5 for $300 including the fork. seemed like a lot less hassle.

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It absolutely poured down in Sydney last weekend.

A bit under half the players were fixed, I think I was the only running a disc, after remaining undefeated in the round robin my rear v-braking/freewheeling team mates were seriously affected during the single elim, I would say it *probably* cost us the tournament.

Either that or I I have to admit that Lewis is getting pretty damn good. :)

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I had the same thing at the nationals. I played 2 or 3 games with almost no braking until I found a rag and wiped my rims down. cleaning the rims in between games to remove oily, rubbery non-friction residue helps a huge amount. That, and using wet compound brake pads like kool-stop salmon. But yeah, disc is kinda nice and lewis is kinda good :)

played today in the rain with the new disc equipped polo rig. WOW! its way much more enjoyable when you can stop...and nobody else can =)

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Yeah...when it's wet out it's either lock it up and slide or nothing pretty much. We fortunately have a covered garage spot to play in when it's rainy/snowy out.

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I have an older Kona scab with an Avid rear disc, I should try to bring that out to polo one night and see how it rides.

Anyone used this thing? http://urbanvelo.org/montano-velo-fixed-hub-disc-adapter/

I just got a new frame that has disc brake mounts and my 48h wheel has an empty fixed side.

thank you santa for posting this. MARTIN! this is the answer for your 135mm flip flop surly! DO IT!

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just posting my experience with discs because, well, if it helps someone then I'm pleased.

I have been using discs since the e.van crown, love it. playing in the rain is a lot more controlled. I haven't put a guard on my disc yet but I'm looking into the options on this thread (especially ebbin's, but jawn's looks to be the best). Also, ATX has a player who welded on protection for his disc and calipers, I forgot your name! but please do share your weld pictures.

Disc calipers: bb7s are the way to go, but I had one break on me (wasn't even at polo, I was fucking around and endoed, bike fell right on the brake and snapped the caliper). Currently using hayes, shitty adjustability, just as awesome stopping. bb7's are also on jason from fort lauderdale (soon to be ATX)'s bike. he adjusts them without getting off the bike. easy as that. high scores in adjustibility (especially if you wanna run doubles, but I did doubles and switched to just the back, prefer the back instead of double in normal weather, maybe consider double for harsh weather)

Longetivity: the benefits over other brakes starts with the pads-- you replace them less often (the bike shop I talked to here suggested somewhere around 3-4 years of use on the same pad, I dunno if they meant daily commuting use or a regular downhill biking use, but in my 6 months of using v-brakes I had way too many problems, at least 2 different sets of pads whereas disc is much easier to maintain. As far as the truing issue mentioned in the original post (i.e. mallet hitting disc causing it to go out of true) it's really easy to fix, get a crescent wrench, apply your wheel truing skills to the disc (spin it, check the out of true areas), tighten wrench over the untrue areas, bend it back into place. easy as that.

If you have disc brake tabs and a hub that works with it, go for it. don't hesistate. the stopping power in the rain, and in general, is great. adjustibility is great, knowing how to fix it is simple and quick.

on a side note, the NAH rules do not have any suggestions for safety with disc brakes. In my opinion, it takes a bit of effort to create a safety buffer for your rotor but by observing rule #1 and not doing dickery like pinning someone to the boards, or tail whipping, whatever, you can cut down the safety hazards a lot. I am gonna work on borrowing jawn's idea to create a safety area around my rotor, but as we are extremely safe at polo (safety meetings are standard) here in Denver, I am not worried about it.

After being frustrated by poor wet-weather braking during tournaments I knew that a disc brake was the solution and after getting a sore hand after long sessions of play, I knew hydraulics were the answer. The only thing was, I didn't want to use a disc brake without suitable protection from flying balls, mallets and slamming wheels. So, I made sure I built all of this into my custom polo bike. I also wanted to make the rotor safe for other players (I've grazed my knuckles too many times on the sharp edges of rotors to not respect the razor edge they can develop)

Polished 1/4" stainless tubing was the answer. Looks a bit like a helmet cage

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At the moment I'm running a hydro setup with sufficiently long hose to prevent blow outs and ruptures from twisted handlebars (learnt from a dirt jump mate). Hydros are less fuss to maintain between pad changes since you don't have to constantly tweak the pads as they wear down, they have more power which is important since I could only fit a 140mm disc between the chainstays. To develop adequate power and modulation needs a stiff/powerful brake.
Now I'm thinking I'll have to switch to a mechanical setup to have a dual brake setup - disc rear, V-brake front.

damn you got a crazy looking guard. how did you get the chainstay to allow the bolts in? had the builder drill it for you or what?

builder = me.. I built (hour glass shape) rack-mount braze-ons into the ends of the brace. for the third mount, there's a small donut eyelet brazed between the dropout and disc tab.

These look beautiful.

max, its zach from ATX. attached are my weld photos. i took this free frame and had a local framebuilder weld this tab on. the caliper and rotor are both protected by welded on guards. the caliper guard is a seat rail and the rotor guard is a bent kickstand.



Here's my rotor guard I just made, can use any old rotor, easy to remove the wheel as the axle slides out of the hub (Hope ProII with 9mm axle conversion kit)

Gabes thats a solid idea. I designed a guard a while ago, and just got my prototype today.
while mine is a solid aluminum guard, i like the idea of the adapter plate allowing spare rotors/easy replacement. Pics to come in a minute

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Here is a closeup of my first run guard.
Nothing fancy, but should do the job of keeping the rotor from bending via mallet or wheel contact.
6061 t-6 aluminum, 5mm thick

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do you have to loosen the guard to remove the wheel?

If you feel like making another one of these please let me know. I've been trying to figure something out but I lack machining knowledge. This is perfect.

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x2. I can think of at least 5 players in seattle that run front disc and would love to buy one or two of these. drop medic a line, and I will pay for one of these.

Nope. Enough clearance for my quick release. I assume a standard axle wouldn't have an issue

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Nope. Enough clearance for my quick release. I assume a standard axle wouldn't have an issue

slick. I like.

Medic.Mike, I'll be doing a smallish production run (-20 pieces) in a little while, with some revisions to the original design.
I'll let you know when they'll be done if you're interested. They shouldn't cost too much.

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Very interested, Bent rotors aren't the worst thing in the world but they're annoying enough that I'd like to stop them if possible.

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also, i'll post a pic of the second version at some point tomorrow, for feedback. Its always helpful to have outside opinions. (hint:it has a built in bottle opener.)

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I just started running disc 2 months ago- had my first ding to it the other night. Crescent wrench fixed it fine but now I'm considering a guard.

I like your design, I might have to copy it! The only thing I'd likely try to change is to somehow integrate the axle into the support of it- I have sliding dropouts which are totally flat.

I think the two caliper mount holes plus an axle hole would be pretty beefy.

One question, 5mm thick seems like overkill- do you think 3mm would be enough?

I'm sure it would, but since I'm going with aluminum, 5mm plate was on sale.
I would have integrated the axle in my design, but the goal is to make something sell-able at a good price point that will work on the numerous different disc forks out there.. sadly the IS mounts aren't all positioned relative to the axle.
The other thing to keep in mind, is that the lower your mounting points go, the less flex you'll get out of the guard.
One lesson from 90's era BMX that I've learned is that no matter how strong you make something, something has to give. I'd rather break or bend a guard than have to re-weld my disc tabs on my fork.

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Version 2. More caliper clearance on the inside of the bolts, more surface area protecting the disc with weight reducing cutouts. 20 degrees of more disc coverage up by the fork blade.

We're looking at around $45 per guard.(shipped) Small production runs aren't cheap.

If you're interested, drop me a line. Lead time is about 2-3 weeks.

Also, if you'd prefer the first version, they can still be made.

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Rotor Guard by Beau

Rotor guard on Mike's 1x1. The esteemed Beau Layman made this beauty. This is about the third or fourth one he's done for our club and its easily the hottest.

looks heavy

No weight weenies allowed in bike polo.

hopping. get with it.

or get stronger?

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are you seriously arguing with me because i don't want to hop a big steel tank around? or maybe you guys are right, do they make them in lead? i think i will use solid fill tires while i am at it.

No, to each there own. Some people just don't need light ass bikes or like my self are to heavy for one.

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Rotor guards (see above) are cut and ready to ship. Still some left if anyones interested! thiscarcrash1@gmail.com

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standard disc brake protection for my new polo bikes (note the highly neccesary penis shaped lightweight hole in both dropout and rotor protector. not to mention the two dropouts to adjust the trail). similar device available for the rear

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i'd caution against not guarding the caliper on bb7s. when i started playing without a guard that little red knob got bashed off and until i got it replaced, was constantly having to adjust my brakes as they would move due to the lack of the knob ratcheting system to keep them in place.

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jawn wrote:

i'd caution against not guarding the caliper on bb7s. when i started playing without a guard that little red knob got bashed off and until i got it replaced, was constantly having to adjust my brakes as they would move due to the lack of the knob ratcheting system to keep them in place.

YES 100% support this statement, same situation here, switched to dual v's for this reason alone. If a guard was made with a caliper guard as well, I'd be completely back in to disc brakes.

i read somewhere the other day that someone had managed to put a 140mm disc on the front but can't remember where. has anyone else done this or know if this is possible?

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guess snot

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maybe with a special custom brake mount of the fork? I'm pretty sure you'd start to run into clearance trouble when you get the caliper that close to everything. I'm willing to br wrong though.

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i'd be willing to let you be wrong. =)

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I think the problem with 140m rotors was that they don't provide the same stopping power as the 160mm so it's really not worth it it seems more than possible.

i've been using a 140mm rear rotor for almost 2 years and it has provided me with plenty of stopping power. i just don't want to create an imbalance by putting a 160mm rotor on the front. i could get a larger rotor/adapter for the rear but wanted to see if there were any other options first.

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The power comes from the calipers. The rotors size is for heat dissipation. Downhill bikes have 203s only because the brakes are almost constantly engaged. For polo applications, there is no difference. I've run 203, 185, and 160 on my polo bike. I noticed no difference except my 203 got bent up after a few months. The 185s lasted a little longer, and I've never HAD to replace a 160 due to damage from getting hit. I've had no problem truing them occasionally(by truing, I mean just eyeball straightening them with a crescent wrench). 140mm rotors would be cool for reducing rotational mass a little bit I guess but I don't think Lance Armstrong would even notice a difference there. At least not on an already 25lb+ polo bike.

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This is only partially true.
the bigger the rotor, the less force required to apply to the brake, the smaller, the more force to apply.
However, you're right about the calipers and to be honest, whether the rotors are 140 or 203, in the game right now, players will probably be stopped effectively one way or another with bb7s on their bike. since you have hydro disc brakes, you can use 140s and it probably would be all the same.

still, a player weighing 180+lbs might find 185's more effective than a player like me (weighing at a slim 155lbs and I find 160s more effective than 140's because of the speed and weight of my bike).

Physics!

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Right. I guess I forgot that a larger rotors spins faster.

If you can dream it, you can do it!

Slower, faster rotation happens on a smaller circumference. A larger rotor will stop you faster based on the prinicpals of a level, longer lever makes the required force less. Big rotors make sense in the front because the front brake is what actually stops you quickly. the rear can be small because it really just controls speed. Heat dissapation is effected by brake pad size and rotor design. More rotor at slow speed will help though.

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What? You're saying that if you are on the outside edge of a merry-go-round(for example) that you will go slower then someone sitting near the center? I may be wrong but I just can't wrap my head around that.

It seems to me that if you have a larger rotors on the front and a smaller one on the back, the front rotor(where the pad makes contact) is going to move more quickly through the caliper than on the back. You are moving more surface through the caliper on the larger rotor in one rpm than on a smaller rotor.

If you can dream it, you can do it!

No, you wouldn't move at any different speed on a merry go round. but when moving at the same speed smaller circumferences complete a rotation faster than a larger one. but you also don't have two rotors on at once. But the speed of a rotor passing through the rotor through the caliper doesn't really effect the braking power. As I said before what matters is the leverage on the hub that different size rotors provide. 203's are a long lever against the forward momentum, 140's are a short lever. you can't apply force as efficiently on a short lever.

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you would move faster on near the outside of a merry go round. the circumference you travel is longer than it would be in the center. the neutrino particles were traveling through rock at apparently just over the speed of light, which as we all know is probably impossible. these particles are traveling through granite, a substance probably dense enough to have enough of a pull on space time that the particles are still moving at 99.9% the speed of light or whatever it is, but time moves slighter faster within the rock. it is theoretically possible to slow time in a sense by getting close to a black hole. at a certain distance, based on the size of the black hole, traveling inside the vehicle only a year would pass, while on earth two would. this is due to the large pull on space time created by the black hole. i could be wrong, what the fuck do i know.

i dont run disks, nor have i ever. however, i do think that a smaller rotor is more out of the way of an errant mallet, or shot. at the midwest open we had to pull julian's rotor out of his wheel. granted that doesnt happen very often and there are a variety of custom made guards available. i probably wont run disks on my polo bike because i am left handed and i dont want my rotors on my mallet side.

Dang. Shit just got real.

Either way, I weigh a lot. I use 160s. It is perfect for me. If smaller fellas want to run 140s, do it. It will work fine and take less abuse. As for me, I find 160 rotors in my couch cushions. They are very common and readily available should anything get fubar. I'll stick to them.

If you can dream it, you can do it!

Dang. Better watch where you sit.

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since the circumference of the merry-go-round is greater at the outer edge than at the inside edge, if you were sitting on the outside edge, you would travel more distance per time period (or rotation) as compared to the inside edge.

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It's called angular velocity guys.
The edge of the disc travels faster than the inside of the disc because it has a greater distance to travel in the same amount of rotation.
Speed of the rotor has nothing to do with stopping power. It's about leverage. But really 140 rotor is still more power than you need.

Bobby wrote:

The power comes from the calipers. The rotors size is for heat dissipation. Downhill bikes have 203s only because the brakes are almost constantly engaged. For polo applications, there is no difference. I've run 203, 185, and 160 on my polo bike. I noticed no difference except my 203 got bent up after a few months. The 185s lasted a little longer, and I've never HAD to replace a 160 due to damage from getting hit. I've had no problem truing them occasionally(by truing, I mean just eyeball straightening them with a crescent wrench). 140mm rotors would be cool for reducing rotational mass a little bit I guess but I don't think Lance Armstrong would even notice a difference there. At least not on an already 25lb+ polo bike.

Bull.

well phrased.

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http://leagueofbikepolo.com/bike/bobby/my-custom-shifting-hydro-disc-hav... fuck-yeah.

My dual Hydro discs with gyro. Just thought I'd share with my fellow discers.

If you can dream it, you can do it!

most pimpin'est brakes in bike polo right here

I JUST STARTED USEING FRONT DISC ITS OUT OF A JUNK BOX BUT WORKS FINE MY PROBLEM IS
I FIND IT HARD TO SET IT UP CAUSE I HAVE V BRAKES ON THE BACK AND IT PULLS TO THE LEFT
IS THAT I GOT TO GET USE TO BUT ALL AND ALL I LIKE THEM

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two asshole's don't make it right"
BUTT three asshole's make a good team"

And the quick release bash guard too rawbie.