are the caps completely flat on the outside or cupped?
UPDATE: Milwaukee Bike Co. - Mallet Head
UHMW is the goto material for long lasting polo heads. Tournament weight with the longevity of a thicker pick-up head. Can last up to 10x longer than HDPE heads(based on our team usage). 2.5" OD / 0.25" wall round tubing machined in house to 0.15 except for the very ends. Comes with two 0.325" pre-drilled shaft holes; just open them up the rest of the way to your shaft size and your head will be perfectly centered (no more guessing mallet head center).
- Includes One (1) head and one (1) cap
- Caps are flat on outside surface
- Pre-drilled for shaft
- White Ultra-High Molecular Weight Polyethylene (UHMW)
- Length: 5.5" (140mm)
- Outer Diameter: 2.5" (64mm)
- Inner Diameter: 2" (50mm)
- Inner Wall Thickness: .15" (3.8mm)
- Outer Wall Thickness: .25" (6.3mm)
- 100g +/-5g head only (120g +/- 5 grams with cap)
- Includes 3 stainless set screws to secure cap
- $19.99(every shown in photo)
- Order here
Caps are completely flat on the outside.
any longer ones in the works? these look awesome!
copped
looks good, unlike the travesty eightinch put out.
don't see myself spending 15.99 on a head, but i could see a few caps in my future.
Do you make them in cheater version? Ha!
This doesnt claim to be much less weight than the eighthinch mallet head. eighthinch= 120g without caps. And the eighthinch mallet heads are way too heavy for my taste.
If you ask me, I'd rather strike a balance between long lasting and light but less durable. I don't mind replacing mallet heads every now and then. I'll take that as the cost of having a lighter mallet.
On the plus: looks like there's some space to hole-saw some material and weight off
Yeah and I would bet a Miata weighs as much as a Carrera, or close to it, Im really surprised your even comparing these two products
Wear a helmet. #braindamage
The comparison of two attempts to bring a DYI project to mass production has nothing to do with comparing two car companies and their markets and histories.
But I get it, you want to malign someone, just like I want to malign you back. Sandbox argument at its finest.
This doesnt claim to be much less weight than the eighthinch mallet head. eighthinch= 120g without caps. And the eighthinch mallet heads are way too heavy for my taste.
Eight Inch w/o caps=120g
MBC w/0 caps=100g
20 grams is a noticeable weight difference on a mallet. I think you'd be surprised
If you ask me, I'd rather strike a balance between long lasting and light but less durable. I don't mind replacing mallet heads every now and then. I'll take that as the cost of having a lighter mallet.
It's not always weight and durability to consider. Different types of material will also have their own unique feel when playing the ball too.
On the plus: looks like there's some space to hole-saw some material and weight off
exactly, you go it.
Thanks man, answered plenty. I'll check it out!
weighted MKE and 1/8" on the same scale and I got 90g and 130g
the caps fro both were 21g
Much better than a holesaw.
These can be expensive but it makes the mallet making process so easy. One bit can drill two different size holes top and bottom for your shaft and can also lighten up your mallet head. Totally worth getting!
what's that bit called?
A uni-bit or step-bit. Irwin makes the nice ones but for mallet heads you can get away with the cheaper ones.
*edit* Sorry Chris, didn't see your reply till after I sent this from my phone at lunch.
It's a step drill bit.
The cheap ones from china on ebay are more than good enough for mallet making.
The real advantage I find is that you dont need to clamp the mallet head and there isn't the sudden bite of using a holesaw. You can also start off with a slow speed and if your holes are a little off alignment you can back off a touch to make sure none of your holes end up too close together. As a result I can drill a whole mallet without even a workbench let alone a vice. Only problem is the mess you have to sweep up. And with really big holes the bit will reach the other wall. So drilling the 3 holes around the diameter like the mo's heads is tricky.
I'm keen on trying out a new Milwaukee head but I use a 7 inch head and Kremin hurt my feelings by suggesting that my mallets would collapse... And by not including metric measurements :)
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Hey Kremin you cheeky bastard, I made that mallet!
Here’s a better photo http://www.flickr.com/photos/urbanbicyclist/4397112458
It’s 5mm wall HDPE and at 20cm it’s still too heavy for my liking but plenty strong enough.
Your new plastic looks interesting, can I get one without a hole drilled so I can still have my angle? http://www.flickr.com/photos/45148921@N05/4934004144"
might test one out....
i've wanted some damn caps like mark's sure, but i'd rather buy them from him. no offense but the HDPE i bought from benscycles was all warped and cut shitty. it had to go in the oven 2 times to straighten out right.
I'll try the mallet heads. What's the deal wit CAPriotti though? Mark, market something we'd all buy. 5.0's with the top down. Hot tub choppers. Benzo's fer Lorenzo. Spazzloco cock armor.
I talked to him after NA's last year about buying his design and putting it into production under St Cago. He insisted that he was just about to start a batch on his own. Haven't heard anything since.
gotta stop drinking on weeknights...dang, the don't be a dick filter comes off. in all honesty these heads look really good and i'll probably buy one or two when i work through these other heads. all i know is mark's head never wears out, that's what i want, my crap to last more than 1-2 months, $20 seems a reasonable price to pay to get that.
I feel a bit like jef raskin at the moment.
this blows my mind. everyone in bike polo knows who i am. there really is no reason to blatantly rip off my design. i hope someone at Milwaukee Bike Co. has the balls to contact me. i'll be standing by one of my iDevices.
go screw
I'd like to up my order to a dozen.
What "design"? There is nothing revolutionary going on here. It's pipe, bored out to reduce weight. The caps are inserted and set into place with small screws. Pretty standard stuff. What exactly did they steal?
What "design"? There is nothing revolutionary going on here. It's pipe, bored out to reduce weight. The caps are inserted and set into place with small screws. Pretty standard stuff. What exactly did they steal?
Agreed. Marc I've asked you for your caps twenty times to no avail.
What "design"? There is nothing revolutionary going on here. It's pipe, bored out to reduce weight. The caps are inserted and set into place with small screws.
Mark discovered plastic.
well that's it, case closed. give him royalties.
i think he was the first to use wheel covers out of corrugated plastic too. jinxy owes him money.
i'm talking about the cap.
my caps were revolutionary in 2008 (maybe before you started playing and spending most of your time posting comments on the former bikepolo.ca)
-jef
uh yeah i happeened to have photoshop open
mark email me kreminatormke@gmail.com
i...don't like the fact there is a hole in the bottom of the head.
what makes you think there's a hole on the bottom?
question: is this the "cheater" head material? like it's the same stuff but just bored out in the middle?
If your asking if these are the same material? They are NOT.
i, like a few others i've conversed with, don't like the bottom of the pole sticking out the bottom of my head
if only there was some way of removing the part of the pole that sticks out. engineers i'm looking at you.
i, like a few others i've conversed with, don't like the bottom of the pole sticking out the bottom of my head
if only there was some way of removing the part of the pole that sticks out. engineers i'm looking at you.
Lets file that away for future generations to figure out.
We don't all know that. It's probably the way you're attaching it.
.325 is just larger than 5/16". How small are your shafts at that point? I know my shaft won't fit through that hole unless i drilled it out more. Just a thought. But i can see if your shaft tapers to be smaller than that.
and this is the "cheater" material
just got my mke head. can't wait to put it on a pole and give it the old college try. to be continued...
Built mine and played it today.
liked it, photos soon
nice disclaimer on the speed holes. I also really like how speed holes has become the word of choice for holes to lighten a mallet. we are a generation of Simpson's watchers for sure. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=speed%20holes
The reinforcements on both extremities are quite interesting, unless they are simply there to fix the cap (?)
makes scooping next to impossible. i'm sure ian will find a way though.
Hey I got a question.
Why did you leave the wall thickness on the ends at the manufactured 1/4 inch? Isn't the whole point of this big white stuff to open up the inside diameter of the mallet head in order to coral/cup the ball more easily? Your standard, thick-walled HDPE has an inner diameter of just about 1-7/8. It seems that you have the ability to bump that up to ~ 2-1/8.
Just wondering why you decided to leave it thicker on the ends?
Just wondering why you decided to leave it thicker on the ends?
To allow the consumer to make that decision, also why there are no speed holes pre-drilled. If you don't want an ID greater than 2", no problem, but if you want to a larger than 2" ID the consumer can easily make that happen. Allowing the customer to make personalized DIY modifications is the root. Having a little more on the ends makes for increased mallet life too.
Reminds me of a handmade bicycle manufacture in the US that used a term for their signature butting. Ibis cycles in the 90's had very innovative bicycle terms. The tubing was called "Moron tubing". Moron the ends where ya need it.
Can someone at Milwaukee confirm me that UHMW is also known as "PE 1000" (Polyethylene 1000).
I have a plasticshop near my work and i would like to know more about this UHMW thing.
Also, the PE 1000 seems to comes only in plain tube (in french its called "jonc" and translated its "cane" or "rush"?) of 60mm or 70mm diameter, its the same for you Milwaukee? You have to make the hole inside and to cut the outside?
Thanks.
McMaster.com sells the tubing with a wall thickness >.25"
MKE bought a lathe, and they machine out the inside to a smaller wall thickness, because the pipe is too heavy otherwise.
McMaster also sells a thin walled version that is 2.675" in outside diameter, which is technically not allowed but people still use it.
this is a first impression of MKE polo head writing in japanese.
http://tokyobikepolo.blogspot.com/2011/05/1st-impression-of-mke-polo-hea...
this is a first impression of MKE polo head writing in japanese.
http://tokyobikepolo.blogspot.com/2011/05/1st-impression-of-mke-polo-hea...
Do you maybe have a small summary of the review, google translate wasn't very usefull
I like the fact that the ends are thicker than the middle. Makes sense. You want the ends to be 0.25" thick where the middle is only 0.15" thick. Smart way to save weight.
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