Machine Politics vs L'Équipe, August 2010. Photo by Steph Simcox
fuck yeah milk, lighter material, best mounting system.
Same material, lighter conception.
The actual name for the color of the Portland Head is "electric salmon". And they're the cheapest/lightest 2.5" unibody mallet head in NA. That said, they're all pretty much the same thing.
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Other differences for milk are:
-Threaded heads (microlines on the surface made by the CNC)
Otherwise, im not sure if a lot of people in Europe tried Portland or fixcraft heads now.
Is there players over here who tried all of them or at least two and notice intersting differences?
"-Threaded heads (microlines on the surface made by the CNC)"
Won't count this one.
The mounting "system" is the major difference. It's not proprietary btw, it's just a hole.
If you need to drill to mount thinner (part of the) shaft the head are pre-marked evers 60°
Although less publicized, don't forget to consider the 'Creamy' shafts and heads that Chris is producing in San Francisco...
X, these are great. To be correct these are not produced in California, but are designed here by our friendly local engineer formerly of Alberta and Wisconsin.
This is true: Creamy's shaft has a special shape ... ;)
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the waste generated in machining per each mallet heads is in the 65%-75% range. just sayin.
100% recyclable, no?
YES - UHMWPE is 100% recyclable! It can be melted back into any shape and not lose structural properties - pretty cool stuff actually...
probably too seriously...
cool stuff... have you done it? haven't found a good source on the web with info on this.
any tips on the best way go about the reforming process?? i've saved the waste/shavings from every rad cap ever made and have been wanting to throw it in a kettle with some frog legs and brew up some magic plastic shit.
i assume it could be done with all old/retired millk/fixcraft/salmon heads too
Here's a (somewhat vague) description of how UHMW rods are extruded from powder. My guess is that to recycle it, you'd just grind the shavings into powder and repeat the process. It seems that the process requires heat and high pressure, so I dunno how feasible it'd be to do it yourself. I'm also curious to hear if anyone's tried it.
Long story short: you may not get any more money out of your plastic shavings, but at least you can keep them out of a landfill.
Oddly enough, your brew isn't too far off... If you've got a mold and a pan you don't care about, you can melt the shavings down and do your own casting. Hell, I've even seen white trash bags melted down into a long lived mallet head! Really though, as long as the mold is good, you can melt this stuff down into anything
I'm hoping to do a side by side comparison soon!
I've used the portland pink head and the fixcraft unibody. The pph is stupid light.
I accidentally bought the pickup unibody head, which shouldnt exist because it is obscenely heavy. It's like attaching a rock to your mallet.
The Portland head is also significantly wider and flat, which made my shot get instantly better. The fixcraft head is smaller and rounded, which was way worse for my shot.
The portland head is definitely for tournament play, seeing how quickly it was reduced to what looked like an orange peel
Totally agree, pickup unibody is heavy as hell!
yeah? the wear is really bad on the portland heads?
yea wears pretty damned quick. id still buy it again though, it felt so right
Glad to hear that the Portland head is working out for your shot!
We started off with our testing by having the prototype mallet heads used by different players in every game for a few weeks. The results were very good and they looked like they would be pretty long lasting - some people are even still playing with the proto heads. After we started selling the production mallets, I noticed that a few people had rather quick-wearing heads, but that all the others were wearing as expected.
After investigating the mallets, I found that there wasn't any manufacturing defect or material problem, so I investigated people's shots and found a common difference. The folks who were experiencing the increased wear all were making the same sort of brutal slapshot with the mallet head hitting at an acute angle with respect to the ground. This concentrates the wear and will even wind up deforming the mallet a bit after some time.
Off the top of my head, I don't know exactly how I would address this problem in the mallet design without adding a lot more weight. Mechanically, it seems like if you cut a half inch off of the mallet shaft of people who were swinging like that, or maybe lower seat height a little, you would change how they were hitting the ball. That is, of course, assuming that folks wanted a different shot.
I'd love any thoughts on this, and I'd love to hear if your shot is similar to the one I describe!
UHMW is UHMW. Overwhelmingly, wear characteristics are defined by material, not by design. The only thing you have control over is how thick you make the impact zone to increase longevity. If I were designing mallets, I would account for a wear zone but I wouldn't overdo it for the sake of making a mallet last a super long time. Your shape seems sound, and your shit is light, so I wouldn't change it.
Having said that: Fuck you! Fixcraft for life, poser!!!!!!
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Brutal slapshot + overdrilling = http://i.imgur.com/I9c2n.jpg
It ain't all bad, though... now I just get more air on my brutal slapshots!
I drilled out the pick up fixcraft head pretty heavily, and it's playable, but it's a little too heavy still. I use it warming up in pick up and switch to my st cago head and it makes a wolrd of difference. makes me wonder about the new modifide head. it's a similar shape inside.
Let's not forget about St.Cago heads in the comparison.
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i like cago heads, they last forever.
How much do these heads weigh? Does anyone know? St. Cago boys put this on your website!!
(they also make dual levers)
Ah, I was on the old bigcartel store. For everyone else's information, the weights for the tournament heads are:
7" = 126g 140g
6" = 110g 124g
5" = 94g 108g
4" = 78g 92g
So a little heavier, $15 instead of $25, and can anyone comment on the wear?
st. cago is one of the most durable out there but that durability comes with a weight penalty. fixcraft heads have a pretty decent wear rate especially for the weight and have great "pop" or "rebound" so it takes less force to get a decent velocity which is great for finesse and passing but for the hardest of shots it does feel like a governor or dampener. I feel like the milk is almost toylike but then again I make my own thick uhmw caps for a solid thunk and ive heard so many players say that they love the weight and feel of the milk. shoiting surface wear, deformation and dimpling (when the cap indents round from the ball) IMO are the number one shot accuracy killers.
I've used cago forever and there is not a sign of dimpling, or deformation . it's solid as shit. haven't had a chance to test any of the milk/unibody ones yet. but i'm on that st cago dick pretty hard.
The Fixcraft head is great! Shots immediately improved when I started using it. If it's too heavy, just drill some holes. I've heard the Portland head dents in on the shooting side too easily. Is this true? Might not be bad either (Hit some elevated shots to the upper 90). Also, can you cut the MILK heads shorter? I've heard this ruins them.
You can't cut MILK, for now it come in only one finish size (5")
who needs shorter heads ? and the shooting side dont dent in !
who needs shorter heads ?
the denting was with a prototype version, adjustments were made to the design to fix that
Hopefully in a few weeks I can add Magic UHMW heads to this list.
Rupert, Max and I have been playing with our prototypes since June, through the UK Champs, Karlsruhe, Worlds, London Open, and beyond. Still going strong.
We had problems with the first run of production heads, as it turned out the plastics supplier messed us around, and gave us HDPE instead (still great heads, and great value at $10, but don't last as long as UHMW).
If all goes well, we will have the real UHMW ones in a few weeks.
The specs are 120mm long, 88g weight, single capped.
Is anyone actively doing a review, or side by side test, of these heads? do you want to shoot me an email nickiwanyshyn (at) gmail.com ?
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It'll be hard to get a durability review any time soon, but I have been playing with the Fixcraft 2500 for a while and just got my Portland head in, hope to be playing with it on Thursday.
I have opinions.
and it looks like there's another head coming out of Toronto now: https://www.facebook.com/ModifideBikePoloEquipment
the same dudes that do modrobes?
Yes. Steve from Modrobes has now launched Modifide for bike polo stuff.
It's neat to talk about these products, but this is a lot of subjective review. Objective comments on mass and density are helpful, but I'm keen to be cautious with the degree of enthusiasm I express, and I'm not in a hurry with superlatives.
Economy is something that can be discussed for sure, and I'll say that the my favorite mallet is still a DIY job, and cost a fraction of a lot of these products (and has outlasted any I've purchased).
Compared to the Fixcraft Unibody 2500, the flow of the Portland head is definitely more aerated, creating a fuller (sometimes too full) head on the pour. This can be a good and a bad thing depending on what you're drinking, but in general the extra air bubbles are probably undesirable.
On the plus side, the weight savings are definitely noticeable and I think would save some arm strain in long nights of drinking. Plus, the unique color makes sure you'll never mistake your cup for someone else's.
I think with some creative drilling - maybe a speed hole for shotgunning - the Portland Mallet Head is a useful addition to anyone's drinking implement arsenal.
The Modifide head makes for a nice pour because of the 30mm mounting area hourglass shape on the inside, my mallet-head-cup of choice.
hey there's a typo on that mallet head
Mallet cups should be a tumblr...
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I just built up a few mallets with the Portland heads. Really great looking heads. On my scale an un-drilled Portland head weighs only 11 grams more than a drilled (for shaft and for weight) un-capped ABS head. That's pretty light. This is the first time playing with a cap so I can't really weigh in on it's performance based on other heads.
so i was gonna wait and build up the heads side by side with a set of fixcraft shafts, but i couldn't wait, so i built up a pick up FIXCRAFT head tonight. It is pretty heavy but it's fucking solid. the extra rib in the middle really holds the shaft snug and it is fucking crusher. shots are harder and so straight and fell really nice. i drilled it out pretty well and it cut its weight down pretty good, to that of a capped undrilled abs head. i'm waiting to get samples from the other guys until i build up the lighter ones to give a real head to head.
also, the 2500 ultra light holds more drank, so it quenches like no other!
FWIW: With similar amounts of drilling, the Fixcraft 2500 has held up much better than the Portland head. I've had to all-but-retire my Portland head after only 30 or 40 games, because of the deformation in the capped end just from shooting.
I've got another Portland head and Creamy shaft to build up in a little while, but I'm going to have to think hard about how I intend to drill it.
fixcraft 2500 all the way. the hell with drilling it out, just makes it weak. we need fixcraft to make some weights for warming up. warm up with the weight for a minute. after you take it off your mallet will feel stupid lite.
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warm up with the weight for a minute. after you take it off your mallet will feel stupid lite.
How about something like this?
Less than five bucks. Half inch inner diameter, maybe line it with some rubberized foam stuff on the inside to A) bring diameter down and B) prevent slippage. You could put it right above the mallet head, clamp it on the shaft in 0 seconds. Adds 65-70 grams to the weight of the head, pop it off when you're ready to rip.
I don't know how they'd hold up durability wise, but if you're just trying to practice some ball handling before a game I think they'd be fine.
I might throw one on my next order to try it out.
Seems legit. Let me know how those work out... might need to order a few for myself.