Machine Politics vs Beaver Boys, May 2011. Photo by Bruce Carver
i might be able to get a really reputable manufacturer (really reputable) to crank out some tough, high quality 135mm 48h hubs/hubsets...but i would feel like a jerk if they did it for me and nobody was interested in them...so any takers riding 26ers and 29ers? what configuration would be best...fixed/free or free/free?
custom is so pricey...plus, there is no such thing as a fixed/free in 135mm, period (that i know of) only free/free. these would be a permanent product most likely with no customization fees. i didn't say what company because if they don't end up making them (due to lack of interest) then i don't want to give them a bad name.
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Surly makes a 135 fixed/free but its a 32h, i have one on order. Phil makes a 135 fixed/free 36h but its crazy expensive
Phil Wood, White Industries and Surly all make 36h 135mm but nobody makes a non-custom 48h 135mm...and the price for the custom hubs is ridiculous.
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I was interested, but I ended up going with 36 hole flip/flop White Industries.
Jesse
Collar City Bike Polo
Troy, NY
i feel like alot of us are settling for 36h...i have 36h velocity dyads. now that companies are making bobmbproof 48h rims it would be logical for a company to make 48h bombproof hubs in 135mm. the thing is are there enough 26ers and 29ers out there to warrant a production run? i want some bad...135mm 48h fixed/free 700c chukker wheelset...i want 'em.
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I'd be interested but I'd want more info, cost, who's making it. Does this not yet exist?
EVBP
if you can find them send me a link...i am only thinking about this as a last resort. i'll find out the particulars on monday but i'll hold back the company for now out of politeness. its not some big faceless corporation.
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Yeah sure, I mean I'd buy some too. As long as it's a corporation with a face. I judge corporations by their faces. Symmetry is important... nice defined cheeks too, a healthy glow like after a game (not too tired looking, ready for another beer), hair just short enough that it reveals some neck, wise eyes... that's my kind of corporation...
oh wait, what? hubs?
Yeah, 48h 135mm. Ahem. Sign me up.
hahaha...good stuff. I just meant I didn't want them looking like assholes if somebody got all sensitive about it not happening. huge corporations aren't affctex by grassroots opinions.
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surly makes 135mm spaced fix/free.
i'm not interested in 48 hole because it sounds like a huge bitch to build due to the spacing of the spokes.
you can get fully custom hubs for around $200-250/pair from this polish guy if you are willing to wait a while. they are made entirely by hand, so that price is amazing.
I've been doing a bit of research into mtb singlespeed hubs and dirtjump hubs. looking for a mini shimano freehub to fit a dingle speed on one side, and a 6 bolt disc mount on the other to mount a 6 bolt fixie cog (or two with spacers http://www.velosolo.co.uk/pictures/tc4a.jpg). also, with these hubs the flange widths are pretty much symmetrical resulting in a stronger wheel :)
there are a few options:
novatec and tuffneck do hubs like this one on bottom right of page, the D236SBT - but 36h only
http://www.novatec.com.tw/novatec/english/p_racing.php?c1=3&c2=13
same on nashbar: http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product_10053_10052_174027_-1_201521_10000_...
then there's profile racing:
profile polo hubs - available in Pruple too!!
http://profileracing.com/profileracing/estore2/index.php?productid=333
profile mtb single speed hubs
http://profileracing.com/estore2/index.php?productid=158
yep, mine just arrived, hope hubs are fucking lovely man. It's undished, and can fit up to 6 speed cassette, I've gone for a 20 and 17 so I have a kind of road gear.
Also, I think 48h on 26" is over kill, I build all my polo wheels with Sapim Strong spokes (They are 2mm straight gauge that but up to 2.3 mm near the shoulder, I've never snapped one yet!
yeah, that was the first singlespeed hub i looked at, but i'm not spending that kinda money on a hub that could have spokes ripped out of the flange. I played without wheel covers for one day (i was half way through readjusting the dish) and damaged my nice suzue high flange 48h tandem hub and don't want to repeat the experience on a £120 hub. really nice hubs though. I think the freehub on the hope should take up to 6 cogs per trials regulation. go nuts with a tringle speed :)
yeah, i used a 36h fixed/free Surly when i was playing on 26". was really solid. i think maybe you're overthinking the need for 48 spokes on a 26". anyone else? my wheel was super solid at 36 spokes. Put a decent sized tire on the front(1.75-2), and all your blocking is happening off the rubber anyway.
i kind of think that 48h wheels put too much stress on the rim. 36h 26in are fine.
What, too many holes? I don't buy it. Can you elaborate?
more spokes put more stress on your rims. You broke two sets of rims with 48h spokes. I think that rims like the chukkah will be strong enough for this but deep v's will break down. I don't see the need for 48h 26inchers.
i love my 48 hole rhino-lite front wheel with an xt tandem hub, i have been playing on the same rim for three years now. i have only had to true it once a month during tournament season, it's pretty bomb-proof.
i like it more than the 36 or the 32 that came before it, they were just too flexy for me after i went to 48 spokes.
to me it's not about breaking the rim, but about having the stiffest set up for more predictable cornering.
and i couldn't agree more on the fat tires paul, they're great for rebounding the ball and protecting the rim.
48 hole hubs are made for bikes that have forces coming from the top or the bottom.
Or just for show.
damn that bc weed. and here i thought i could really *feel* the torsional difference the 50% extra spokes made, when this whole time i've just been high. thanks pagel, if i'd known they were just for show i would have gotten them earlier to match my visor.
The other week (Scott?) Scored through my (32) spokes on the back wheel.
Before I won the B43's, I had ordered this Chukker.
I'd buy a 48h disc ready 135mm hub for the rear to match my yellow 48h front BMX hub
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i like your bike. my old roommate plays on a kona. you don't have problems with the disc brake getting banged up?
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carve. smash. eat shit.
It was me :) radial lacing (on the right side only since it's a drive/disc wheel) would prevent gaps in the spokes at the crossing points
would the proposed hubs be mini cassette like a dirt jump hub? disc mounts for disc brake players or for mounting fixed cogs? what end of the price spectrum are we talking about, formula or phil wood?
i'm pretty happy with my 48h front & 36h rear combo. might consider a 48h rear if it met with my requirements above.
rik from rotten apples had a goal scored through his 48 spoke wheel in paris last weekend. thought it impossible, but apparently not.
it has never happened to me (yet), but i have seen it many times.
thats because youre never between the ball and the goal
or because your front tire is around a 2.2 or something
or because you never take shots that have been traveling far enough to get above your tire and hit your spokes
love you dad and what not or what have you
chinatown b.o.p.
wow. so are there any reasons to ride 48h wheels then? from what i've read in this thread they allow balls to go through (maybe not as much?), don't protect spokes as well as covers (but even if a few spokes are bent stay true?), and are expensive and hard to find as a wheelset. those with experience please chime in.
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carve. smash. eat shit.
strength, stiffness, and if i'm right on this, if you lace them up radial, there wouldn't be a possibility of a ball passing through them.
not sure if you've ever played dustin from seattle before, he's broken spokes and put balls through wheels with his shots.
Interesting! I have considered 48 spoked wheels thinking that I would never have to worry about using covers again.
I'm looking for a test rider.
Anyone out there who knows me want a 48hole rear hub spaced to 135mm?
double fixed, double free, or half and half, your choice.
respond via email, thanks.
Doug D
Brooklyn, New York
http://www.hardcourtbikepolo.com/
i'm just one person but since you asked, no. not me but Jarrett just put some (phil) on his custom polo frame. photos soon here http://www.hardcourtbikepolo.com/?page_id=549
why not tell us what co. ???
Doug D
Brooklyn, New York
http://www.hardcourtbikepolo.com/
Doug D
Brooklyn, New York
hardcourtbikepolo+gmail+com
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