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can i put track style drop out on my bike

Submitted by el diablo and w... on Jul 22 2011 1:35pm
can i put track style drop out on my bike
can i put track style drop out on my bike

i am lookin for options of fixing my bike up i am fed up with playing around with my set up as it is is it possable to put track style drop outs on this frame cause i love this bike is it worth it???

#1
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Rik
Berlin

if it is steel, yes, you can put track dropouts
it is worthy? only you can anwser that.

Rik
Berlin Bike Polo 2010
London Bike Polo 2008 - 2010

Jul 22 2011 2:20pm
#2
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Dus
San Diego Bike Polo

If the frame is steel, then sure. Google "track dropouts", and there are several styles of replacement weld-on track dropouts to choose from for your rig. I believe they're anywhere from $30-$70, and if you're a good welder & can put down a good bead, you should be ok as long as the angle of the dropouts is correct during the welding process.

If you ride freewheel, an easier option to switching dropouts on a vertical-dropout frame is to use a derailleur as a chain tensioner. I have vertical dropouts on my rig, and I used to use a half-link chain, but still had chain tension issues. After hearing about some people having trouble with the durability of a traditional chain tensioner, I decided to try and use my derailleur. 2 years later, it still works great, and if i add or drop a few teeth on the chainring it's not an issue at all. just set the limit screws, and youre ready to go! Hope this helps.

EDIT: or you could try a White Industries ENO eccentric hub for your rear wheel. Once you have the wheel bolted into the frame, the axle rotates, and in turn increases chain tension. They work with any regular freewheel, and I believe the hub starts at about $135 USD.

Jul 22 2011 2:08pm
#3
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polojoel

I had good experience with a wheel built on an ENO. It solves the dropout problem and a good strong rear wheel is worth a lot in terms of saved hassle. I'm a big guy playing a lot and have few mechanicals.

Jul 22 2011 7:44pm
#4
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el diablo and w...

THANKS GUYS the reason i want to do this is iam sick and tired of derailieurs and want just all chain

two asshole's don't make it right"
BUTT three asshole's make a good team"

Jul 22 2011 2:19pm
#5
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Medic.Mike
Seattle

Robbie, is price is difficult talk to Jim. I've seen that dude do some awesome stuff to bikes before.

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That shit 's legit as fuck!

Jul 22 2011 3:04pm
#6
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vince
Portland Bike Polo

$25
http://www.paragonmachineworks.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&ke...

could turn your polo bike into a huge bottle opener at the same time.

Jul 22 2011 4:32pm
#7
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BoozeKruse
COMOPOLO

Learn to braze (you don't even have to be that good), get a hold of a torch. This was a 2 hour job for me and cost 30 bucks in materials on a ~92 diamondback topanga.

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Jul 22 2011 4:39pm
#8
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el diablo and w...
NookieRick wrote:

Learn to braze (you don't even have to be that good), get a hold of a torch. This was a 2 hour job for me and cost 30 bucks in materials on a ~92 diamondback topanga.

nice job are you still useing that bike how is is holding out?????

two asshole's don't make it right"
BUTT three asshole's make a good team"

Jul 22 2011 5:12pm
#9
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BoozeKruse
COMOPOLO

Survived a year of abuse, no cracks. I don't ride it anymore but it's being passed on. I shook it down hard, too.

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Jul 23 2011 9:24am
#10
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Chillstar
COMOPOLO

unless i'm mistaken robbie's bike's dropouts are welded in not brazed, which would be harder then the quickie job you did on the diamondback... still not impossible just i little more labor intensive to get the dropout to match the frame.

Jul 23 2011 5:21pm
#11
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vince
Portland Bike Polo
NookieRick wrote:

This was a 2 hour job for me

Pretty sure I did that...

Jul 23 2011 5:02am
#12
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BoozeKruse
COMOPOLO

Joint venture, you megalomaniac!

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Jul 23 2011 9:18am
#13
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el diablo and w...

so i put another picture of the drops
outs now i just need to get the proper ones any one know which ones to get??????

two asshole's don't make it right"
BUTT three asshole's make a good team"

Jul 22 2011 5:11pm
#14
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el diablo and w...

i was also thinking more of a bmx style drops outs will they work??? cause i have some frames and i thought i could cut them out and give them to the guy thats going to do it to save some cash

two asshole's don't make it right"
BUTT three asshole's make a good team"

Jul 22 2011 5:19pm
#15
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nedderweevil
San Francisco Bike Polo

If a bent hanger is what's bummin, then check out the HANGER BANGER, IT'S Canadian made and you can get it cheaper easier and faster than I did. North Shore Billet in Whistler. Great product.

Also, as an alt, cheaper, maybe better source, try cutting off some horizontal drops from another frame ... Maybe that one you cut up for espisode 3? There's no major advantage to going to fork/track ends aside from you'll probably get ones made with really good steel if you buy new. And with drop outs (things that point down or forward) you can sometimes grinder them longer if you can't get perfect chain tension. Again, assuming steel here too. Though Seagravy did this with his bitchin blue aluminum cannondale ...

Devin

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Credo quia absurdum

Jul 22 2011 5:41pm
#16
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Sveden
Minneapolis Hardcourt Bike Polo

No, you cannot put track style dropouts on your bike.

Minneapolis Bike Polo dot Com

Jul 22 2011 7:34pm
#17
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el diablo and w...
Sveden wrote:

No, you cannot put track style dropouts on your bike.

''oh really'' you must be a friend of jared????

two asshole's don't make it right"
BUTT three asshole's make a good team"

Jul 22 2011 7:44pm
#18
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stevenso
Tulsa

Do you know anything about magic? Take the derailleur off and remove the extra links, you may be good to go. If necessary, check half-link option.

Jul 22 2011 8:01pm
#19
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el diablo and w...
stevenso wrote:

Do you know anything about magic? Take the derailleur off and remove the extra links, you may be good to go. If necessary, check half-link option.

no man i have seen the way fuck up like the chain come off and the guy know has one nut hahah

two asshole's don't make it right"
BUTT three asshole's make a good team"

Jul 22 2011 8:04pm
#20
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YasMada
Ann Arbor, MI Bike Polo

I would recommend the brazing option. You may have to file the new dropout to fit into the frame. I would bet it would be easier to find a firend with a oxy/acetylene set up then a tig machine. You could use a MAPP gas torch if you cant find a acetylene set up. It will be easier to braze too, with out a lot of practice tig can be unforgiving. Make sure to clean every thing well, and if the tollerances are good then use a silver braze, it has a higher tensile stregnth then brass. AWS BAg-7 would work, its high in silver content and The rest is made up of copper, zinc, and tin with no super hazordous elements.

Keep your standards low, and morale high.

Jul 23 2011 1:42pm
#21
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el diablo and w...
YasMada wrote:

I would recommend the brazing option. You may have to file the new dropout to fit into the frame. I would bet it would be easier to find a firend with a oxy/acetylene set up then a tig machine. You could use a MAPP gas torch if you cant find a acetylene set up. It will be easier to braze too, with out a lot of practice tig can be unforgiving. Make sure to clean every thing well, and if the tollerances are good then use a silver braze, it has a higher tensile stregnth then brass. AWS BAg-7 would work, its high in silver content and The rest is made up of copper, zinc, and tin with no super hazordous elements.

ok buddy thanks just got a job my bike will striped down then i am going to take a grinder take the paint off 3 coats of flat black then i am going to get my friend to do the pin striping ( for free) it will be in flat red rims flat black spokes red 4 wheeel covers east van bike polo
done in black with red letters or red with black letters ( have not decided yet) then to finsh it all off a nice 4 or5 coats of flat clear coat
and on the down tube it will say the devil in spanish

my dream polo bike yayayayayayaya

two asshole's don't make it right"
BUTT three asshole's make a good team"

Jul 23 2011 2:48pm
#22
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YasMada
Ann Arbor, MI Bike Polo

regardless you will have to fit the drop out to the stays. i would strip the work area or entire frame before starting work, mostly to see what your working with. if the drop out is brazed in (i'm unfamiliar with that drop out/frame) then you can remove it with heat, but it could be welded and ground which would present a different challenge. if its welded then your gonna have to cut it, carefully. then you could slot the stays (how ever the original drop out is installed) to fit your new drop out, i would recommend making a jig to hold the drop out to make sure the spacing works out. an old axle with spacers rigged up to a framework of some sort would work, be sure to secure the frame too. good luck.

Keep your standards low, and morale high.

Jul 24 2011 1:41am
#23
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el diablo and w...

YA THANKS ALL ITS GOING WORK OUT

two asshole's don't make it right"
BUTT three asshole's make a good team"

Jul 25 2011 4:01pm