ya there's a thread about this. closing comments on this since it's a duplicate, which is what i should have done before. thanks again for the feedback Mark, always appreciated.
edit: i never figured Godwin's law would be proven correct so quickly on this forum.
email from kev
"thread deleted cause it's a duplicate"
that was a one of a kind thread. i worked hard on it, and i think the people have spoken and we want it back.