Clipless all the way!!
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Clipless pedals
After watching Seabass and Dusty hop around on their bikes at the NAHBPC, I am considering putting clipless pedals (Time ATAC) back on my polo bike.
My questions to you: do you play with clipless? Why / why not? Most importantly, have you ever been injured because you couldn't get out of the pedals in time?
August 10, 2009 - 10:18pm
#2
August 10, 2009 - 10:43pm
#4
I rode with clips/straps when I rode fixed still, but since going to freewheel, I just play on big BMX pedals. I like being able to fling a leg around to stay balanced. Clipless in polo seems crazy to me, but I've seen people do it.
OGT-COMOPOLO
August 10, 2009 - 10:57pm
#5
The first time I played hardcourt I switched from clipless to platforms after riding clipless for almost 20 years. I crashed so many times and so hard that's it's amazing that I still wanted to play hardcourt. I found that not being used to the extra length of the platform pedals caused me to high side. I ditched the platform pedals and went back to clipless. I've had less crashes in a year than that day on platforms. I have no problem disengaging and jumping clear of a crash nor does it prevent me from lifting a leg and reaching way over. I also played grass bike polo for several years in clipless as well with no problems. I think the caveat here though is "whatever you are used". Trying something new will always result in a learning experience and it may take a long time to become as adept as Seabass and Dustin. And really it's not just the equipment, some people are just more talented. btw congrats Smile on the recent NAHBPC win. Wrong thread but whatever their names were brought up and I happen to really respect the Seattle crew so kudos.
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August 11, 2009 - 12:09am
#6
I'm not the best person to give advice since I've only ever played clipless, but in my experience it's a great solution for polo (if you play on a fixed gear bike):
- quicker and more instinctive to get into the pedals than clips and straps
- safer for crashes (clipless pedals always unclip in a crash)
- more pulling power to start and stop
- less chances of pedal strike
the only downside is for tournaments: if you destroy you bike mid-game, it'll be harder to find a spectator with a bike that you can ride (in my case I had to scream "SMALL FIXED BIKE WITH SPDS!!" at the euros recently - surprisingly found one though...)
Yorgo
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August 11, 2009 - 9:48am
#8
I've been riding fixed clipless for polo for almost a year. I run old SPD style CODA pedals with the single release cleats. The multi release popped out too easily. The first couple games were a bit wierd because you realize how much tighter you need the spring tension for polo than for regular riding. I always clip out in a crash and almost never (like maybe twice?) by accident. I need to be connected to the pedals because I like the control of the bike for hopping, pedaling backwards and such. The only time I have thought having straps would be an advantage are the rare cases when I'm covering the goal and want to hop and turn more than 10-15 degrees. You'll clip out.
If I ever dump the clipless, it won't be for clips and straps, it will be for something like Power Grips of Feet Belts. Easier to get in and out and if you're in a hurry, you can just stomp on 'em.
August 11, 2009 - 12:57pm
#9
clipless rules, great power, great control, low-profile, easy to get out of.
August 11, 2009 - 1:46pm
#10
Crank Brother Mallets. Full platform downhill clipless pedals. You don't need to clip in to get a good power transfer, you don't even need to wear your cleats if for some reason you can't. The pedal strike is a real bitch though because they're so large and made of metal.
August 11, 2009 - 6:04pm
#12
Played my first few months of polo fixed with cages and straps, then i went to clipless on all of my bikes.
It was the best thing i ever did for my polo. So much control.
And if you're going to do it, Time ATAC is the way to go.
August 11, 2009 - 8:47pm
#13
I've always run clipless on all my bikes, so I may not be totally qualified to make comparisons, but don't forget many of the clipless systems we use were primarily designed for mountainbiking which involves lots of hopping in and out of the clips when negotiating tricky terrain.
footdown!
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August 11, 2009 - 11:11pm
#14
I've run clipless pedals for about 15 years from mountain biking etc. The sudden no-warning stops/falls in polo freaked me out though and I ran flats for the most of my polo playing. I just changed to clipless before the sydney 2on2 tournament and didn't have any troubles disengaging and the extra sprintability and hopability is a plus. The flat pedals I had were very grippy (with soft shoes), so i still feel about the same connection to the bike, which surprised me. Biggest negative is that I no longer have a bike i can ride comfortably in regular shoes to go and get milk. the flats were also colour-matched to my bike.
August 17, 2009 - 8:33am
#15
Thanks for the feedback all! I put clipless pedals back on my polo bike and although I haven't used them in a real game yet, we played 3-goal 3-person polo yesterday and I was hopping around like a robin. Dig it.
After this, my next Seabass move to master is the 90 degree wheelie turn.
Jesse
Collar City Bike Polo
Troy, NY
August 17, 2009 - 7:52pm
#16
i have been tossing the idea of going clipless alot even before seeing dustin play espcially with the crank bros mallets but what steers me away is the pedal strike i still may try
www.mkebikepolo.com
March 6, 2010 - 9:16pm
#17
i have been tossing the idea of going clipless alot even before seeing dustin play espcially with the crank bros mallets but what steers me away is the pedal strike i still may try
www.mkebikepolo.com
i use Acids' they have a lot of platform, but they're narrower than the mallets so they allow for more clearence. the down side is, being the fat fucker i am, i generate a lot of power, and since i cannot adjust the tension i have pulled out of them. i know that so it's easy to avoid.
March 10, 2010 - 11:10pm
#18
I tried the Crank Bros and they have too much float. I crashed hard way too often. Seattle uses a different bran..can't remember what.
September 22, 2009 - 9:09pm
#20
I switched to Time Aliums recently and I have to say that through 6 hours of hard play I never once fell because of being clipped in. It felt great and natural to clip in and while it did effect my reach a bit I think that eventually I will be quicker on the unclip when I need to reach for it. Bouncing in goal is a really solid feeling too, allows me to put myself into a better position. I also find that while I can sprint better clipped in I have a much better feeling while whipping my tail end around so I don't cream it into the fence.
I've thought about using something like the mallets while I've been trying it otu but I think that I'm going to stick with the aliums because I won't have to worry about pedal strike unless I'm doing something really stupid. The plastic odysey pedals were awesome when this would happen but a metal pedal would probably kill me.
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Marco!
Axels of Evil
March 9, 2010 - 5:46pm
#21
i use time atacs on all of my other bikes, and used them for several months when i was playing polo fixed.
but then i went down hard and fast at midwests, and couldn't get out of my pedals fast enough. and this was with 8 years of riding time atacs, so clipping out for me was second nature. but when you have milliseconds to clip out, there's not much you can do.
so now, with a freewheel, i use flat bmx pedals. i miss the power that clipless pedals offer, but i dont want any more busted digits.
EDIT: i'll also say that every since i switched to flats, i foot down about 3x more than i used to.
March 9, 2010 - 6:40pm
#22
just go for shimano spds or something less difficult to get out of. clipless rocks and there are lots of pedals that let go instantly.
March 9, 2010 - 7:13pm
#23
in my situation, i doubt it would have mattered. plus, ive tried spds once. hated them.
March 10, 2010 - 3:29pm
#24
SPD's are the way to go. Give them a second chance. The shoe will also play a big roll in this. Shimano mountain are good. 661 Filters are big right now. I have not tried the 661 s yet.
March 10, 2010 - 10:01pm
#25
filter 661s are the shoe i prefer for polo, but mostly because there is basically nothing else available in a spd-compatible skate-shoe format, unless someone knows different.
they will last you the season, but not much more. they are hot, not made of much, and offer limited performance. however, they are comfortable, do the job, were my everyday shoes almost all year, are the most popular shoes in clipless bike polo, and are ones that i will buy again in a heartbeat.
March 10, 2010 - 5:07pm
#27
after switching to clipless, i can hardly imagine riding a fixed gear (polo or street) without it. what's your reasoning?
March 10, 2010 - 9:44pm
#29
i think it would have mattered, as spds set up right have never failed me. i like to go over the handlebars as much as any polo player you will meet, ask around. you may not have liked spds for road riding, but their float is perfect for polo.
March 11, 2010 - 2:58pm
#30
you mean lack of float? that kind of makes sense. i'm fine with flats for polo though, so im not in a rush to start experimenting with SPDs again.
March 11, 2010 - 4:08pm
#32
AHH! i finally figured out what you were talking about with the spd cleats there. single release v. multi release, never used multi release ones. was told they were crap like 20 years ago so never bothered to check them. i really don't want my foot coming out ever unless it is intensional. so mine are cranked down as tight as i can get them. still disagree on the pedal choice, but that is a preference thing not a this is better than that.
with crank bros the cleats can be switched from left shoe to right shoe to increase the float.
March 12, 2010 - 6:21pm
#33
AHH! i finally figured out what you were talking about with the spd cleats there. single release v. multi release, never used multi release ones. was told they were crap like 20 years ago so never bothered to check them. i really don't want my foot coming out ever unless it is intensional. so mine are cranked down as tight as i can get them. still disagree on the pedal choice, but that is a preference thing not a this is better than that.
with crank bros the cleats can be switched from left shoe to right shoe to increase the float.
Now i'm lost. are we talking SPD (two bolt mountain stlye) v. SPDSL three bolt patern road style? do they even make the multi release anymore? because that sounds dangerous and terribly inefficient.
March 13, 2010 - 12:32am
#34
they make a "3 point release" spd 2bolt cleat that is waaaay too easy to unclip
anyone playing polo on spdSL's is insane, or amazing, or both. I think the only way to do that right would be with red cleats :P
March 13, 2010 - 11:59am
#35
they make a "3 point release" spd 2bolt cleat that is waaaay too easy to unclip
anyone playing polo on spdSL's is insane, or amazing, or both. I think the only way to do that right would be with red cleats :P
i have a few times played on my keo's.
i didn't realize they still make multi release spd's.
March 9, 2010 - 9:41pm
#37
I have double sided spds set pretty loose. Love em...
When I first started out, I had them set tight, but slowly loosened them almost all they way. Don't have as much control as before, but better than platforms, and easy enough to snap out of for reach shots.
March 9, 2010 - 9:55pm
#38
there are times i was yelling becasue i was clipped in an took a bump to hard and was pissed i was dumb enough to ride clipless, but then i realized, there's a 50% chance i woulda crashed just as hard had i been clipped in.
March 10, 2010 - 12:17pm
#39
Its all about committing to your bike. Kremin, you are worried about pedal strike? just ride through it, your clipped in! just keep the bike under you and you don't go down. It seems to work really well, stay attached to the bike and you don't fall down as much (read without sarcasm in a caring tone).
March 13, 2010 - 3:50am
#40
Yes you are right Tim Tim. If you are clipped in with Shimano platform MTB pedals your are less likely to pedal strike. Platform pedals are more likely to offer a pedal strike on a sharp turn around.
March 10, 2010 - 3:10pm
#41
I always love hoping the bike back under you when you get the bike leaned over so you don't have to dab and then you can just power after the ball or hop back in front of the net.
March 10, 2010 - 11:34pm
#42
clipless ruuuuules. less dabs quicker acceleration.
also, since most clipless pedals are lower profile than bmx platforms, pedalstrike is actually much less of an issue
as said above, you need the springs much tighter to stay in with all the quick accelerations and swerving
I played with the 661 Filters on SPD single release until they (the shoes) broke and now I'm back on bmx pedals and I dab twice as much
biggest drawback: polo will ruin most clipless shoes in no time from the stress of unclipping all the time (separates the sole from the shoebody)
I imagine eggbeaters (4 sided) or speedplay frogs (durability, float) would be worth a try for polo as well
Mavic also makes a decent suede sneaker type 2 hole clipless shoe
March 11, 2010 - 12:12am
#43
are you talking about the mavic cruize? my 661s aren't falling apart at the sole, more the heel is just falling apart from taking them on and off.
March 13, 2010 - 12:25am
#44
yes the cruize is what i was referring to.
also keen makes some pretty sweet looking walkable spd compatible shoes
also for the record my 661 filters came apart after 10+ months of intense road riding with 'em + a few weeks of polo so milage will vary
my concern is that polo gear = very high torque, polo = much clipping in and out, both meaning much stress
March 13, 2010 - 11:25am
#45
my concern is that polo gear = very high torque, polo = much clipping in and out, both meaning much stress
For some reason, I busted two right side pedals on my polo bike in the past month; specifically the front part that holds down the front of the SPD cleat, and both sides of a double sided pedal. I do clip in and out with my right foot a lot, but I dunno wtf I've been doing recently thats causing it. The first pedal lasted more than 6 months.
March 13, 2010 - 11:45am
#46
i'll bet you that it's laying the bike down that breaks your pedals, that's what happens to mine. i can't get a pair of clipless to last more than a couple months.
March 13, 2010 - 9:13pm
#47
yeah your bike is laying on the ground a lot. imagine how much you would dab without clipless!
March 10, 2010 - 11:43pm
#48
I had some old Lake's I wore for years playing grass polo but hardcourt seems to have been harder on them. I recently picked up some Time downhill platform spd comaptible shoes, probably leftover from last year because I got them for a pretty good deal. Solid shoe, stiff sole, kevlar rand and toe, meta-tarsel cover and a carbon fibre inner ankle cup. They are a sweet looking shoe. It's taken a few days to get used to them and the new cleats. Am I taking polo too seriously to have bought these just for polo? You're damn right!
March 11, 2010 - 1:57pm
#49
I've used the same pair of Shimano MTB shoes for years. I only play polo once a week (soon to change) but I ride every day. They are still in one piece.
March 13, 2010 - 11:05am
#50
I put clipless pedals on my polo bike in november and love it.
661 Filters and Eggbeater Candy pedals.
I've had one pair for 4-5 years now and I've never had problems with adjusting them like i used to have when i rode SPDs (which is good, as they're not adjustable).
the cleats do wear out eventually (just like SPDs do), and then I replace them.
I used to ride the specialized fat boy bmx shoes(discontinued) and liked them, but I think the 661's I've had are more comfortable, work just as well, and I like the padding.
March 16, 2010 - 11:37pm
#53
I started out with platforms just to see how it was. I used BMX platforms for a year before going to clipless last winter. Every other bike I own has clipless pedals on it, but at first I wasn't sure about clipless for polo. Well for me there is no going back. I dab way less in clipless, and the hopping while in goal to get a better crank postion is well worth it. I use to pedal strike every so often with the platforms and haven't done it yet with clipless. I am using Time ATACs if that matters at all.
March 17, 2010 - 10:23am
#54
i like plastic platforms. the plastic is soft, and consequently not so bad when/if you ever pedal strike. I like being able to get one leg hanging way out there for balance, if needed.
like this
http://www.flickr.com/photos/chrisaltman/4420566882/sizes/m/in/set-72157...
April 7, 2010 - 10:51am
#55
From now on, every tournament, I'm going to go around and tighten all your pedals.
Foot down will become shoulder down.
I promise, you'll thank me later.
April 18, 2010 - 10:21pm
#56
Does anybody ride LOOK cleats instead of SPD? I've been riding those for years but never thought about using them for polo until now.
I used to ride power grips and they were awesome... when you could get into them. For some reason the metal piece that attaches to the pedal has a tendency to bend, causing it to be harder to get into them. They're definitely not made for polo. I tried platforms after that, but I ride 175s, and I have a tendency to pedal strike. I don't fall, but that split second of shock is sometimes enough to take you out of play.
What're the advantages of SPD, besides the MTB shoe and/or being able to clip out vertically?
April 19, 2010 - 9:50am
#57
I've never accidently popped out of a look pedal, but I like the double sided SPD pedal. I can clip in a LOOK pedal without looking, but it takes an extra second or two. Plus you can mash down on a SPD pedal with (most) mountain shoes while not being clipped in and it won't slide off, like you would with most road shoes that have a plastic bottom.
December 29, 2010 - 10:43am
#58
Has anyone played with SPD style pedals than switched to Time? Aside from Time being stiffer when clipping out what are other advantages Time pedals offer? Thinking of making the switch.
December 30, 2010 - 7:25pm
#59
some young bike courier using time pedal for polo, here in tokyo.
December 30, 2010 - 7:40pm
#60
I am going to try the Times tonight for the first time. I will give a report next week.
January 3, 2011 - 12:09pm
#61
Played on the Times. They are smoother and stiffer than SPD's. Took a few games to adjust to the foot inset of clipping in. After 5 hours of play I believe making this switch was a great decision.
December 30, 2010 - 9:00pm
#62
used spd, and now moved on to time, much netter over all, good support, easy to get into and out of, they just work better.
December 31, 2010 - 12:49am
#63
Just started using crank brothers a bit ago, haven't tested them too much with work and the weather but I gotta say I'm really digging the switch (had BMX platforms with half toe clips before).
The power transfer is just incredible.
I'll get to the hoping and tricks and shit later but for now, holy crap I'm just so much faster, I don't care if I crash more or pull out sometimes, it's fucking worth it.
December 31, 2010 - 9:00pm
#64
whic pedals are you using? i was using the acids for a while, the i cracked one, so i switched to themallets. i clip them a little bit more, bu theyre tough as shit.
January 3, 2011 - 5:31pm
#65
Using the older Candys that have the plastic platform.
Small platform, but still enough to stand on if you aren't clipped, and they're plastic so if you DO strike it's not as harsh.
Plus they're way cheaper than the mallets or the acids so breaking one isn't all that bothersome, to your wallet at least.
Got to play with them for some real time this weekend in Madison, with some new shoes that kinda guide the clips into place too.
I gotta say they're pretty awesome, but I have to get used to them a bit.
The Joust likes to wheelie a bit in the first place, and there were a couple times charging that I forgot to shift weight forward and the whole thing just flipped up on me. One of those times I wasn't able to clip out and just rolled over backwards, catching the cement floor right above the ass.
December 31, 2010 - 1:01pm
#66
I've had the Time ATAC Z pedals on my polo bike for a while. They are the freeride version of the pedal with the larger platform around it.
I like them alot for polo, having the extra platform is nice. It means you can just throw yourself on your bike and have something more to land on, get moving and then clip in. But for some reason i keep breaking springs on them. 2 different springs in 3 or 4 months. I'm not sure if its just bad luck but ive never had the problem with the normal Aliums so I'm back to them for now. The Aliums are cheaper too.
January 4, 2011 - 8:05pm
#67
I too have had an issue with one of the springs but the pedals were used/old and were probably nearing their demise anyway. ATAC all the way.
December 31, 2010 - 1:07pm
#68
i love the Z's. haven't broken springs.
the biggest problem with Time anything is how fast the brass cleats wear down.
December 31, 2010 - 2:03pm
#69
As I said, it might just be bad luck. I've never broken a spring on the Aliums and i dont see why there would be a difference between the two really.
Thats never been a huge problem for me. And for the past 18 months atleast i've been wearing my cycling shoes (661 filters for the most part) exclusively. Maybe been through 3 sets of cleats?
And thats working and walking and playing polo in them. Maybe the 661's just have a better cleat recess than other shoes.
January 5, 2011 - 9:13am
#70
ya i should probably replace my 8 year old shoes, they had recess at some point but their soles have worn down. but the wear i'm seeing is on the the front of the clip, and i don't think that's from walking or dismounting.
January 2, 2011 - 11:47pm
#71
I have SPD's on all my bikes except my downhill, I love them!!
January 4, 2011 - 2:29am
#72
old school time atacs...i challenge you to yank out of these...amzingly powerful and reliable yet so simple to get out of...just a little twist...competition setting and you can hop around with no fear of unclipping and still kick the leg out for balance instantly leaning out over the front wheel for an angle shot from the wall...time atacs...A-T-A-C-S-!
January 5, 2011 - 1:27am
#74
I had crank bros. candys for a second and bebops as well and I didn't hate either one but nothing even comes close to atacs for solidity of engagement and ease of disengagement...when am I gonna see some hopping from you max?
January 6, 2011 - 12:37am
#76
that's a great deal...and oh yeah, i'll definitely be there...see you on the court...
until that twisting motion takes place of that pulling motion shit's scary...real scary...i had the opposite happen...going from clipless to cages...i have permanent swellbow and swelling hippers that balloon if i even touch them...sucks.
January 5, 2011 - 2:53pm
#77
I got Time ATAC Aliums a month or two ago, with Shimano MP-66 shoes, and am having a brutal time with not being able to clip out quickly enough, and falling and smashing my knees on the pavement, also leading to a complete lack of confidence when I'm going into corners/walls, etc.
I've tried rotating the cleats in the shoes as much as possible to decrease the release angle, but to no avail. To be fair, I've never used clipless pedals before these, so I'm still used to pulling back/up to get out of straps, instead of rotating my foot, but I just can't seem to get the hang of these and am thinking of ditching them for polo use...
January 5, 2011 - 4:05pm
#78
Make sure you have the cleats on right shoe. The TIME cleats are designed so that you get a 7 degree release if they are mounted one way, or if you swap the sides its a 13 degree release.
Make sure you've got "D/R" on the right shoe and "G/L" on the left shoe. This will give you the 7 degree release. I tried the 13 once and its wayyy too much.
I'd suggest trying to stick with them. Maybe put them on your street bike for a bit to get used to them. its just about making the foot rotation your first instinct. Keep using them and you'll get used to it. The benefits of them are so worth it.
January 6, 2011 - 12:49am
#79
13 degree with steel cleats! the bike is literally an extension of your lower body...love it!
January 6, 2011 - 12:47am
#80
i've never used aliums...but until that twisting/rotating motion is second nature you are probably going to have some hairy moments. with clipless you unclip before you are falling while you are learning...you can always clip back in but you can't always clip out...especially once you are already falling and your leg is bent in a way that disallows rotation.
so worth it once you learn...power transfer, pedal stike clearance, hoppability and connection to your bike are all ridiculously improved...but whatever's confidence ispiring is best...
January 4, 2011 - 10:59pm
#81
I use Shimano M540s. I like them but end up having to replace the pedals every year or so. Times are nice like that, been thinking of switching but more than half of what i ride has SPDs on it.
as for SPD being reliable i've found them to be very. i play fixed and shoot often with my left leg off so i need to unclip and reengage quickly and have had no problems.
January 7, 2011 - 1:26am
#82
one of our column of bike polo from loop magazine vol. 8 (12/24 released).
clipless pedal for bike polo is one of hot article.
January 7, 2011 - 3:02am
#83
I ride fixed no brakes, clips ofc. (bout to add a front brake) ever since i made the switch from FW to fixed i feel my game and playing styles have changed alot with it being able to go backwards with a quickness (and control) and knowing where my feet are gonna be, i feel alot more control on the clips VS. straps. I have the "Forte" half clip half platform pedals with some worn ass down specialized "Sonomas"(I can't remove the cleat) that have lasted me about 3 years now (through my courier stint) And with my MTB conversion I am able to rock 175's with ultimate ground clearance. Clips are the best thing that ever happened to biking in general. Besides the hard falls in polo. (Tuck N' Roll!)
March 1, 2011 - 7:38am
#84
What about this? http://www.artscyclery.com/descpage-40190.html
People says here that the problem with SPD's is that they are multi-release.
This SPD cleats (SM-SH51) are single release. Any opinions? I just bought it today, because I was tired of the multirelease ones and I don't have enough money for the famous time atac.
March 1, 2011 - 11:54am
#85
I ride this one for a long time now. No problem. Some "extra" release every 2 or 3 games, when i jump or pedal too strong, but nothing important.
Spd are enough good for poor people in my opinion, i like them.
March 1, 2011 - 12:27pm
#86
Thanks, i'm going to try it this week.
March 2, 2011 - 3:16pm
#87
yah get those SH-51's, the multi release are pretty easy to spot, they have a "M" forged into them. I use the SH-51's with M540 pedals. I don't have any complaints, i get about 4-8 months of use out of a pair of cleats and if you keep fresh cleats on your shoes then the pedals will last longer.
club mate of mine hates SPD's but they have always served me well, they are on two of my mountain bikes, one of my road bikes, my polo bike, and two of my commuting bikes. its really nice to hop off of one and on another without having to change the pedals, and if i had time's then it would be much more expensive to do this.
i'd also use a good MTB shoe, some of the shoes i've seen and worn that have a softer sole eat up your energy and kind of defeat the purpose of having clipless pedals. I use Pearl Izumi's.
March 2, 2011 - 2:11pm
#89
did you get the newer "roc atacs"? I ride the older square style on the competition setting with steel cleats...never accidentally clip out. having said that...pay attention to your feet when you hop...if you are twisting your body you might be twisting your feet...whic essentially clipping you out. I have trouble with 180 hops bacause I twist my feet and clip out so I do smaller multiple 45 or 90 degree hops.
March 2, 2011 - 9:28pm
#91
sounds like you have the aliums...
yeah, should be called the competition setting...at least it is on my pedals.
hops and wheelie turns are going to step your game up...we'll see what you got at south central!
March 2, 2011 - 2:52pm
#92
Ditto. I've been having trouble with 360 hops. I usually break it up into three 120 degree hops, four 90 degree hops, or if i'm really tired, five 72 degree hops. Fuckin spds
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Recently added polo bikes
just like everything, there are advantages and disadvantages to playing clipped in. i played in cages for a while, and i have a newfound and enormous amount of respect for those who can use those without killing themselves. adding buckets easily doubled my injuries.
THAT BEING SAID, when i went clipless it was way better. more natural to get out of, better power transfer. i find it affects reach, cause it's harder to get that foot out and lean over the frame. still though, if you want to hop around like a jackrabbit and sprint like a champion, clipless is the way to go.
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victoria bike polo