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Worlds 2011
Hi everyone!
As a club, New York Bike Polo has decided to focus all it's energies and resources on a bid to host the 2011 World Hardcourt Bike Polo Championships.
We have therefore decided not to bid on hosting the 2010 North American Hardcourt Bike Polo Championships.
A detailed proposal for the 2011 WHCBPC is forthcoming.
Best,
Fiona
i'm number 3 in this soon to be epic thread
sooo. London 2010? anyone?
I asked around in Paris a bit and same here, no interest in worlds or euro's. It's remotely possible this might change if we can find better courts which are easier to book. Since Marc has now registered a bike polo association we are allowed to book venues, Id vote for the euro's/worlds to be somewhere with somewhat better courts than we had at the Paris BFF.
Berlin And Geneva will post very soon bid to organize EHBPC or WHBPC 2010.
It seems that's the olny two cities interested, if there is another, please tell it asap.
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x it up!
Doug D
Brooklyn, New York
http://www.hardcourtbikepolo.com/
by the way there will be no breakfasts at this tourny
nothing... just get the fuck out and play
we invited you here
and you might be tired
oh look GINA'S here
BOP!
Portland will be present. Thank you for the adcanced warning.
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Marco!
I am the Duck.
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This is too far away. I quit.
3...2...1...GO!
Mallets Of Mayhem
Little Richmond B.O.P.
we promise it to be the best worlds EVER!
looking forward to it, coach.
who knows even the birds of prey might still be around
actually by then my hope is that we are actually riding birds not bikes
spokecards??
By then, hopefully, they all will have been captured and tagged for better observation. Can't wait for 2011.
what are you guys planning to use for a court?? oh ya, and PS 2011 in Calgary!!! (cawwww cawwww!!!!!!) (NY is too close to Philly, let's bring it to the west ;-))
There are thousands of places to play polo in New York City. Being that the Pit is the best place to play polo in the entire world, we've never had occasion to find another spot for tournaments (besides our supplemental Cherry St. courts). Want to have a camp-out worlds? We can do that. Want to play in the shadow of Yankee Stadium? Done. Like to ride the rollercoaster at Coney Island in between games? Ok. Want to see the entire Manhattan skyline as you score the winning goal? Sure.
We're putting together a huge list of potential spots and will make sure that whatever courts we decide on are top notch.
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure Calgary could host a super event as well (I know how you guys roll, with your rugs and all). Let the healthy, respectful competition begin...
What about Canada or the Midwest? I think it should be "best bid wins" and that geography is one decision making factor.
hold the world's within hours of each other twice in a row on the east coast in the same country? in my opinion this tournament should travel out of the north-east in 2011.
what difference does that make? it's not new york's fault that it's so close to philly. in fact, new york has nothing to do with philly. plus it's conveniently located right in the middle of the poloverse. (sorry to the dozen people who play in australia, but it's true) plus it's got a great scene full of people with the knowhow and who can facilitate a tourney like the worlds, these are important things to consider too.
i'm not for or against NY for world's, i'll be at that tournament wherever it's held. i just hope whatever city does host is one that i'd like to visit.
remember that people, be sure include joe's preferences in your winning bid. you might as well start currying favour now because we are just going to send the proposals for him to choose from-- so your city had better be interesting to *joe*. what's your favourite beer joe?
it is new york's problem, if they wanted to hold a world tournament in 2011 they should have built their city on the west coast. or found a haybale outlet and held it this past summer. holding a world tournament twice in a row on the same coast is preposterous, i thought this game was going global?
no, your wrong. you decided it would be alternating coasts. stop talking about where you dont want it and tell us where you want it. then we can base it off of those merits. and you could do with some favor from joe, lest he break your whole fucking hand this time.
i love it ben, you are helping new york out so well. maybe you wouldn't mind talking about vancouver so that we could get a tournament someday?
the idea that somehow the pit is the best court on earth, or that new york is the centre of the polo universe, or that we should hold the world's on the east coast repeatedly, or that i decide anything simply boggles my mind.
you can have a tournament if you want too, just put together some sort of bid.
The Pit is definitely the best place in the world to play bike polo, and don't even try denying that Pieter.
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pieter getting his panties in a bunch about anyone having city pride is pretty much the most ironic thing i've read on this forum in a long time.
You miss the point completely here, this is not about New York, anymore than it is about me, or city pride for that matter.
This is about geography and a supposedly 'world' tournament. If the east coast holds it twice in a row, just when are other regions going to get to host? How long would somewhere like Los Angeles have to wait for something like this? Pensacola? Canada? Australia? Los Marcostan?
if la wants to host and puts in a bid that supports their ability to post, then when considering the fact philly hosted a tournament in 09, whoever the committee be will probably make an appropriate choice. that being said none of those cities gets to host without a bid, or a declaration that they are hosting. you know thats the current method. you just say it and its real. are you announcing that e van will be hosting a world tournament in 11? if not then shut the fuck up and wait for the bids.
We're simply just putting our bid out there. We love to host, we love to show our guests a good time in one of the greatest cities in the world. Our entire club pitched in and helped facilitate an entire week of hosting, pickup, and parties prior to this year's Philly Worlds. I believe most people enjoyed that.
Host NAs on the West Coast in 2011. Show us what your city is capable of, Pieter. Let's keep this discussion moving forward.
NYC rocks da house, to be sure, but calgary makes more sense (at this moment, in my mind, dearest polo 'community') for 2011 given that a)they made a 'bid' and b) that the worlds were an hour away from NYC this past year, and c) they can put on an awesome tournament (despite the actual city being pretty lame and the altitude making you fucking suck wind pretty much the whole time). ah shit, calgary ain't so bad as a city (grimacing as a write this), but it sure ain't NYC, but their facilities will be top notch, and there won't be any dicking around for court space, as i experienced this past summer in new york. i sure as shit ain't against NYC in 2011, but i thought i'd offer my two bits worth of 'sense'. perhaps worlds in calgary 2011, and NA's in NY 2011? but it is much easier for the 'world' to get to NYC, assuming that there is a larger contingent of euros coming, oh, and australians, of course...
EVBP
For the record, no one in East Van has talked about hosting the world's in 2011.
No, not twice in a row on the same coast.
You are leaving out that little thing 2010.
Doug D
Brooklyn, New York
http://www.hardcourtbikepolo.com/
Exactly. Maybe I'm just being a European saying this but everyone is talking about the Worlds like it's an American tournament. There are other countries in the world besides the US and I think any other Euros reading this must be baffled at the "east coast/west coast" conversation. And baffled by the fact that people thing number 11 comes after number 9.
twice in a row on the same coast WHEN THEY ARE IN NORTH AMERICA. 09, 11, 13 etc, with the even numbered years being in europe, as these are the two regions where polo is most played. but sure, 2011 in australia, no chile, no guatemala actually, fuck it futherfuckin' indochina! bring it to ireland fiona...make the family proud.
EVBP
Are you making a bid Piet? Let's hear it.
i vote to not have it on the same coast. keeping in mind it would be the THIRD year in a row on the east coast. ANYwhere else but east coast.
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i vote to not have it on the same coast. keeping in mind it would be the THIRD year in a row on the east coast. ANYwhere else but east coast.
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how bout a bid then? like ben said lets stop talking about where we dont want it to be and start hearing some bids on where it should be. we definitely talked about the resistance of having 2011 worlds in nyc and are still putting out our bid.
my bad. just putting in my 2cents... isnt that what this forum is for...
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how would that be the third year in a row? 2010 will be in Europe.
I'll double check, but i don't think Toronto is on the east coast. If anything it's on the south coast, or perhaps the north shore.
Many Americans who came to CMWC had never been to Canada before. Menace got out of the van and went straight to the Hockey Hall of Fame.
that's being a little liberal with term "consecutive", but whatever. i just don't see why the WC returning to the NA east coast two whole years from now is so wrong. fair chance for redemption if you ask me. i also don't think the OMG WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS!! should be that big a deal in general, but that's me.
i've been to NYC plenty and would love to go somewhere new, but know for a fact the NYC crew would put on a better tournament than most.
so like Kremin said, let the best bid win.
i vote to not have it on the same coast. keeping in mind it would be the THIRD year in a row on the east coast. ANYwhere else but east coast.
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This has been pointed out above, Meg, but it would NOT be the third year in a row. No one from N. America has put out a bid for 2010 worlds, and it sounds like they will be in Europe.
first off the pit is not the greatest court in the world. a bit to wide and if you go headfirst into the boards like peter did in seattle it would be a damn brick wall. second of all who gives a flying fuck about what coast its on it should be all about the courts. if you have a bid put that shit together get some photos of a secure spot and post it (preferably with a retractable roof). also its not like this shit has to befigured out this week this month we have plenty of time to think about 2011
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I think we all learned a lot from Philly about court organization and setup. There are plenty of places to play in NY besides The Pit, and that will be worked out in the year and a half that it takes to get this tournament set up. And there won't be any hay bales.
There are thousands of places to play polo in New York City. Being that the Pit is the best place to play polo in the entire world, we've never had occasion to find another spot for tournaments (besides our supplemental Cherry St. courts). Want to have a camp-out worlds? We can do that. Want to play in the shadow of Yankee Stadium? Done. Like to ride the rollercoaster at Coney Island in between games? Ok. Want to see the entire Manhattan skyline as you score the winning goal? Sure.
We're putting together a huge list of potential spots and will make sure that whatever courts we decide on are top notch.
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure Calgary could host a super event as well (I know how you guys roll, with your rugs and all). Let the healthy, respectful competition begin...
Because tournaments are getting larger and require more planning and organization this is something that will need to be resolved sooner so that the host city can really put on a good tournament. If it goes to Calgary (or other pending city) then we need to hear a bid.
BOOM!
P.S. As far as the walls in The Pit are concerned, its Pieter's fault for running into the wall, not the wall's.
At some point, we're going to have to figure out where are these bids are going...
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i thought 2010 worlds was in pensacola.....in fact,
i thought that sespi(bike polo spring break) was
another name for bike polo world championships.....
sauls....you lied to me....
I say bid for the 2011 by the spring...say April 2010 so cities less prepared than New York can put in a bid. This is not a first come first serve process and the courts or organization committee is key.
Let see the courts New York...minimum of 4 courts in close proximity. What about lights? New York does not need to show its hand yet but in my mind neither does Calgary or other North American cities. Lets show some restraint.
The pit is a good court but not great.
Thoughts?
Yep I'm with Rory on this one .. before everyone is too excided about bidding for something like this .. shouldn't a few things be set in place?.. such as when the cut off for bid will be .. spring sounds good .. lots of time to bug sponsors or apply for grants and such .. but no one has said anything about minimum criteria for such a event... I personally do not like it if the courts are not together .. why split up all the fun?.. what is the minimum amount of courts?.. do you even have bathrooms and water?.. lights??.. how big are your hay bales?..does your cub/city have experience with throwing tournaments?...housing?...,, I think there should be a few things that meet a certain minimum before you put your hand up for a epic even like this ....
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Rorybear,
i agree with your sentiment that it's not first come, first serve. Fiona just wanted to inform people we are preparing our bid, we are interested, and we love y'all. That's it. We're all on-board with the idea of "May the best bid win!" We want to throw, or attend, a great Worlds in 2011.
that being said, you guys need to step the fuck off with the "the Pit is just ok" shit. for real.
FOR REALLLLLLLLLLLLLL. Hockey courts have a distinct advantage to the Pit obviously, as they're completely enclosed and as long as there isn't a rut around the edge, the ball stays fast and in play.
But when you gaze upon something, nay when you behold something, as glorious as the Pit, with its removable drainage grate, adjacent bodega, myriad sideline dwellers, sexy Chinese bird men, an actual bird of prey, a really clean bathroom, arguably Chinatown's best takeout dumpling house, a pee corner, 3 years of consistent occupancy... how can you front? Describe a scenario where it would be appropriate to front. There is no such scenario. This structure is a gift from the polo gods. x14 on it's Pieter's problem if he runs into the wall. you've got brakes, my playa. Use em. Would you blame Seattle's lovely structure for the broken elbow at NAs? No. you did that to yourself.
We understand we need 4 courts and the Pit would be a feature of our tournament but not the main area.
We understand courts are the main priority and we will update you with our offerings.
... how can you front? Describe a scenario where it would be appropriate to front. There is no such scenario.
Accursed eloquent east coast intelligentsia!
...holla west coast beardos; we need to step up the level of discourse if we're gonna nail this one...
No lights, bumpy, fallen leaves, open ramps. Resurfaced for the worlds?
True Lots of great atmosphere in an around the pit and I love coming to play pickup, especially is your playing with or against me Paul.
But clean bathrooms? Last time I used that bathroom I think there was poo art on the walls.
No lights, bumpy, fallen leaves, open ramps. Resurfaced for the worlds?
True Lots of great atmosphere in an around the pit and I love coming to play pickup, especially is your playing with or against me Paul.
But clean bathrooms? Last time I used that bathroom I think there was poo art on the walls.
sarcasm much?
Those aren't bugs, they're features.
What makes the pit so great isn't the pit itself (though I think it has the best boards of any place I've played), it's the atmosphere and location. Right at a cross-way in the middle of china town. Not tucked off in some hidden corner, we get lots of spectators and that changes the energy around even a pickup game tremendously.
That said, we know that we can't hold a tournament there, so just you wait to see the awesomeness we will offer up.
People are sleeping on the floor of that bathroom as I type, King Cobra in one hand, needle in the arm, fresh log in the undershorts. ok, so i was joking about the bathroom. you got me.
"it's NY" (poo) art takes many forms
for the record, i love the walls at the pit almost as much as i love you paul.
there's a great thread about the pit over here,
http://www.bikepolo.ca/forum/courts/2008/10/11/the-pit-0
and anyone who hasn't read or contributed to role of the pit in the history of hardcourt should take a look at this:
http://www.bikepolo.ca/forum/general/2008/09/16/history-of-hardcourt
I, for one, am excited that this many clubs are vying for the honor. Minneapolis in 2013!
ok all this talk about 2011 is great.
and it does get the ball rolling.
there are still the questions:
-who will actually decide? i agree it should be a club vote, not individual player
-who is going to get the 2010 going? we've heard berlin etc...but are they really getting it together here soon? travel and planning isn't at the drop of a hat and some of us need to know in as much advance as possible.
-Rory: nice job on setting an actual timeframe for bid cut-offs. Can we actually agree on a date [then figure out who/where that bid is going]?
edit: i just saw coaches corner thread.
can we get a date though for submissions for both 2010 and 2011.
Why, Fiona! What an awesome idea. I'm penciling it in my calendar now.